bel_dad said:
To me, it's kind like driving a car with a bent rim... Sure it never vibrates bad under 70... and I hardley ever go over 70... but what if some day I want to go 100, for what ever reason... Should I just leave the bent rim, or would you suggest fixing it?
I like the idea of having a gun that shoots better than I do, and I like the idea of having a knife that will take more than I ever hope to dish out... I like having a gun that NEVER jams a lot better than one that "doesn't jam all that often." Just in case... Who knows, my life may depend on it some day, and boy would I feel stupid as I was dying, thinking I should have spent the extra $$$.
When it comes to self defence, when it comes to my life... Not bad just ain't good enough.
bd
Logical and well made points.
But the question was in what scenario do you see a +100yd shot being justifiable self-defense?
I have a defensive rifle and its function is to engage improved(ie bad guy in a car) single threats, exposed multiple threats and improved multiple threats at under 75 to 100yds. Beyond 100yds I can employ a reasonable and safe retreat beyond danger or the threat enters into the zone that can be reasonably interpreted as life threatening.
The above will cover 99.9% of all conceivable defensive scenarios. The ones it will not cover fall outside the realm of self-defense and creep more into civil defensive scenarios. I am referring to the breakdown of society where you are defending against armed looters etc or an armed resistance to occupation.
Now given that the likelihood of the latter scenarios is very minuscule and applying the theory of diminishing returns, I ask why spending more for accuracy beyond 100yds is necessary in a defensive rifle?
Example:
a) DPMS M4 carbine $650 Great range queen but not to be relied upon with hard use.
b) DIY M4 using top end parts $1000 Great tactical rifle built for hard use and reliable
c) Noveske N4 light carbine $1900 Top of the food chain tactical rifle
d) Noveske M4 Afghan SS barrel $2450 Top of the food chain tactical rifle with .5 MOA
The jump from a to b produces the greatest improvement for dollars spent the investment of 1.5 to 2x the base cost returns a exponentially higher quality weapon. But the jump from b to c has almost the same cost multiplier and the improvement is negligible if at all. Now the jump from b to d has a cost of 2.5x but how applicable is the return? Does that increase in accuracy really make a difference in a real world defensive scenario??
I believe you would be better served buying a "well suited"(don't like the term good enough) defensive/tactical rifle then take the money you would've spent on unnecessary accuracy and attend some training courses. Tactics that cover most real world scenarios will serve you better than the ability throw tight groups at 200yds.
The preceding is just my opinion it is offered only to stimulate thought and discussion, not to offend anyone.