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MI.sabot

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I just watched this short video that was on the T & S website:

http://www.tandsshellcatcher.com/ShotgunMovie.htm

My initial reaction was that it would scratch the receiver when snappiing it on. Does it?

If so, are there any other shell catchers out there that you would recommend that don't mar the receiver?

Thanks
 
MI.sabot said:
I just watched this short video that was on the T & S website:

http://www.tandsshellcatcher.com/ShotgunMovie.htm

My initial reaction was that it would scratch the receiver when snappiing it on. Does it?
Yes, they will.

I use a Birchwood Casey "Save It" on the 1100 Classic Trap I bought new in Dec, 2005. These do result in some markings, please see my last paragraph.

http://www.birchwoodcasey.com/sport/acc ... rodcat=129

I have had a long history with the basic type which is an update of the Pedersen Save It.

My wife shot trap from 1987 to 1997, her favorite gun; an 1100TA Trap. She used a Petersen and put about 40,000 rounds through the gun with that catcher. She liked it so well, she had one on her 1100 sporting 28 (Petersen's used to be made in the small gauges) and 11-87 Sporting Clays; and they performed well.

I certainly did not select a Save It because of its good looks , I find them very functional.

I like them over the TS because in my experience, they work better. I have never had one fail to grab a shell, where I have seen numerous people have to furiously shake a fired shell out of a TS equipped gun because it fell back in the receiver. I don't need that on the line.

It can be folded down to easily drop a live shell out if there is a need to unload due to a problem on the line.

One thing I do right away with these, though. They come with a funny looking red, soft plastic tip on the wire that is supposed to keep the end of the wire from scratching the receiver, just behind the ejector port. These come off too easily with bad results. Fortunatley I was aware of this and did not find out with the new 1100CT.

I take a piece of insulated house elecrical wiring, I forget the size . I use wire strippers to take a 1/2" long piece of black wire insulation which I slip over the end of the wire. It hangs on and because it is black, IMHO, looks better.

I did this on my wife's 1100TA in 1988 and it hung in very well, I think I replaced it once in 40,000 rounds.

The two sided tape hat comes with the Brirchwood Casey is pron to degrading with oil. I use the two sided automotive trim tape, the stuff that is as thin as the original Birchwood Casey tape. It doesn't damage the bluing in any way and can be removed with gun solvent.

As for marking the receiver, the TS will leave marks, over time, where it clips on at the ejector port and at the bottom of the receiver, near the loading port. The Birchwood Casey pins the shell between it's spring wire and the bottom edge of the ejector port which polishes the bluing off, you don't see this when viewing the gun from the side though. I would rather not have any wear but prefer the wear pattern on the Birchwood Casey.
 
I have a TS that I use with my Beretta 303 and it hasn't left any marks, but it's plastic. I've never had it fail to catch a shell and I don't remember having to fish an empty out of the chamber. It may have happened, I just don't remember it.

There's something wrong with that video. His gun doesn't seem to cycle. Why have a shell catcher if your auto doesn't eject the shell?
 
Rastoff said:
I don't remember having to fish an empty out of the chamber. It may have happened, I just don't remember it.
You are fortunate, sometimes they work very well with a particular gun.

I was reporting what I have seen over 38 years, shooting at dozens of clubs in that time period.

Compared to the cost of a gun, both of these devices are cheap, a person can always buy one of each and try both to determine their own preference.
 
The T&S catcher for my Berreta 390 is plastic. The one for my 1100 is steel. I simply put a small peice of cellophane tape on the place where it rests and snaps on. It works for at least a few rounds before I need to replace it. No scratches on my gun yet.
 
I purchased both. The all metal one does scratch. The plastic one does not, and works very well. I have an 11-87.
 
They do cause a little minor wear, especially for skeet shooters that who have to snap them on & off during a round. Hardly noticable on trap gun. If you would like to try one, I have a supply of new steel ones for both 12ga and 410/28ga for Rem 1100. $10.75 PPD in first 48. PM or email BigCreekMI@aol.com
 
NEtracker said:
For Singles, I have the T&S metal version on my 1100CT.
Note, the plastic version did not work; prevents the action from closing.
That's the first time I've heard of this problem. Could it have something to do with the "deflector stud," or whatever-you-call-it on the 1100 Classic Trap that is supposed to knock the ejected hull down by your feet? And are the dimensions of the plastic T&S different from the metal ones? Thicker, maybe?
 
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