I've got a 1187 special purpose that i use exclusively for turkey hunting. I shoot Remingtom 3" nitro mags out of it. This year it quick cycling it will shoot once and not feed the next shell and the action stays open as if it's empty. I've got a friend that works on guns and knows what he's doing most of the time. We swapped the trigger ***'y out with one from a Model 1100 and 1187 and it cycled at his house. I carried it turkey hunting shot it once and it still didn't cycle. We replaced the o-ring right off the bat, what do I need to look at now? Please help I'm getting desperate.
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I've got a 1187 special purpose that i use exclusively for turkey hunting. I shoot Remingtom 3" nitro mags out of it. This year it quick cycling it will shoot once and not feed the next shell and the action stays open as if it's empty. I've got a friend that works on guns and knows what he's doing most of the time. We swapped the trigger ***'y out with one from a Model 1100 and 1187 and it cycled at his house. I carried it turkey hunting shot it once and it still didn't cycle. We replaced the o-ring right off the bat, what do I need to look at now? Please help I'm getting desperate.
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This is a answer to both your post!
Not to insult your friend but it might be time to take it to a pro rather then have him mess around with it. It should a easy fix for someone with the knowledge and experience of working on triggers.
Also the price of a new trigger group will run you about $100+ bucks and I'll almost bet a good gunsmith could repair it for the same or less.
Just my take on it! :wink:
Not to insult your friend but it might be time to take it to a pro rather then have him mess around with it. It should a easy fix for someone with the knowledge and experience of working on triggers.
Also the price of a new trigger group will run you about $100+ bucks and I'll almost bet a good gunsmith could repair it for the same or less.
Just my take on it! :wink:
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If your gun failed with both trigger assemblies, the problem is probably not there. The most likely reason for this kind of failure is a weak magazine spring. As a test, stretch the spring to aprox 150% of its current length and see if the gun cycles; if it does, get a new spring. Mike Orlen
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Quite possibly all that is needed is a very good cleaning and lubrication of the inside of the magazine tube and the magazine spring. It also wouldn't hurt to remove the trigger assembly, let it soak in kerosene for an hour or two, let it drip dry overnight, then lubricate it with Breakfree CLP and reinstall. I would say that the chances are about 3 to 1 in your favor that this will cure the problem. If not, then buy a new magazine spring which costs about $7.
If I read what you said about the other trigger group in the gun, then it MIGHT have the same trouble that one a guy dropped off at my house had.
I wish I knew the name of each part in the trigger group but I don't so here is what I found. (I'm a hack gunsmith, but have a good track record)
His gun jammed from a dry gas sytem, he forced it open, when that happened it knocked a square "tit" out of the square hole it rests in. This part is towards the top front of the group, the square hole is in a piece that stands vertically. This kept it from cycling the second round and the bolt stayed open.
Another thing that happened was the lever on the side was bent out , the lever sits in the side of the reciever and cams the shell holder ( I think).
So a quick check to see if the "tit" is in the hole and you might find the problem.
But as I said,I'm a hack , try at your own waste of time.
I wish I knew the name of each part in the trigger group but I don't so here is what I found. (I'm a hack gunsmith, but have a good track record)
His gun jammed from a dry gas sytem, he forced it open, when that happened it knocked a square "tit" out of the square hole it rests in. This part is towards the top front of the group, the square hole is in a piece that stands vertically. This kept it from cycling the second round and the bolt stayed open.
Another thing that happened was the lever on the side was bent out , the lever sits in the side of the reciever and cams the shell holder ( I think).
So a quick check to see if the "tit" is in the hole and you might find the problem.
But as I said,I'm a hack , try at your own waste of time.
The first question I would have to ask is where is the second shell. Did it release from the magazine? if not is it sticking out of the magizine tube at all and can you with little to no effort push it back into the magazine.
Go out and test fire the gun and when it jams look at the next shell and see what it's status is. Can you move the shell freely with your finger into the tube and it freely come to rest on the shell stop.
Check this out and get back to us and someone can give you some real insight on what it may be.
There are at least six parts that can cause your next shell not to feed.
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Assuming the extractor is not broken or partially broken...
1. Clean the gun
2. Clean the gas port
3. Replease the O ring
4. "Lightly" lubricate
5. Reassemble rings correctly (most likely the problem), referring to a diagram.
1. Clean the gun
2. Clean the gas port
3. Replease the O ring
4. "Lightly" lubricate
5. Reassemble rings correctly (most likely the problem), referring to a diagram.
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Here is a 1187 trigger assy on E-bay right now if you think that is ultimately the problem- It is only 9.95 right now, not sure what the reserve is, but that would be a bargain.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 09338&rd=1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 09338&rd=1
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