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Yea, I'm waiting for Rahmbo to throw a clot on local TV. It will be interesting to watch ,over time,how all our bangers, thugs and Democratic Party street urchins react. Will they be fast learners after the first seasoned citizen blows the dome off of one of them or will the fact that your next mugging attempt MAY send you to glory be enough.
 
RandyWakeman said:
There is no home rule issue for the ban has been found unconstitutional.

CC will pass, for if it doesn't, Illinois becomes a "Constitutional Carry" state-- and no permit would be required. That clock is ticking.
Would you please explain this a little more? I'm not sure what you mean by "Constitutional Carry" state. I mean, I understand the 2nd amendment, but I don't understand how it applies differently to Ill if they don't pass some law. Doesn't it apply to all of us no matter what?
 
I get that mongoose71. However, all the states that claim Constitutional Carry have passed some sort of legislation specifically backing it up. I'm a firm believer that this legislation is not necessary because of the 2A, but that's what they've done anyway.

My question has to do with why Ill will default to Constitutional Carry if they don't pass some kind of new concealed carry law. It isn't that way now so, what has changed or will change to make it that way?
 
Put simply nothing will change. Illinois not having a law on the books that prohibits the carrying of concealed firearms at the end of the six month deadline doesn't mean that they're legally obligated to automatically allow for the carrying of concealed firearms. It'll be a legal limbo where the act isn't specifically prohibited by set law, but at the same time there won't be anything to recognize the act as a legal practice.
 
Does that mean I'm allowed to do it or not? And what of the IL law that requires me to transport my firearms in an unloaded state and in a case?
 
Charlie_B said:
Put simply nothing will change. Illinois not having a law on the books that prohibits the carrying of concealed firearms at the end of the six month deadline doesn't mean that they're legally obligated to automatically allow for the carrying of concealed firearms. It'll be a legal limbo where the act isn't specifically prohibited by set law, but at the same time there won't be anything to recognize the act as a legal practice.
Complete nonsense. If it is not illegal, it is legal. There is no legal precedent for the "Mother, May I?" rubbish. There is no law that says it is illegal for you to chew gun, eat a french fry, and use a Frisbee at the same time-- therefore it is legal.

You cannot break laws that don't exist nor can you be prosecuted for them. Anything not illegal by statue is legal. What the court said was:

"The Second Amendment," Judge Posner writes, "states in its entirety that 'a well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.' The right to 'bear' as distinct from the right to 'keep' arms is unlikely to refer to the home. To speak of 'bearing' arms within one's home would at all times have been an awkward usage. A right to bear arms thus implies a right to carry a loaded gun outside the home."
 
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