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The blowback in your face actually comes from where the receiver and the forearm meet. I did a ton of testing with duct tape to narrow it down.NH Squirrelhunter said:I finally got a chance to see & handle the V3 recently. As the store had both guns right next to one another, I handled both a V3 26" synthetic & a VersaMax Sportsman, also with a 26" barrel. The V3 may be the handiest 12 gauge autoloader I've ever run across, feeling more like a 20 gauge than anything. Handling was rather lively, though for some reason it didn't seem to fit as well as the VersaMax. I was also able to acheive a better 'sight picture' with the VersaMax, which though comparably muzzle heavy & slower swinging, seemed to connect with my shoulder better.
Having noticed the V3's gas vents, I can see where their location could certainly lead to the 'blowback' issues that have been reported. Without shooting one, I can't say how this would be for someone like me who runs things off the left shoulder. Fit and finish appeared good, the gun has many included features (as noted, at some online prices, plus the rebate, there seems to be much value built-in), and I would certainly love to try one out; I can't help but wonder though, if I might shoot better with the VersaMax...
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~ SH ~
The "Drake" has a lot of problems keeping his sometimes entertaining, but often nonsensical, always anonymous stories straight.The Drake said:The blowback in your face actually comes from where the receiver and the forearm meet. I did a ton of testing with duct tape to narrow it down.
For those that say it doesn't exist are just not being honest. Mine did it, my hunting buddys did it and the guy I let shoot mine last summer bought one. I ran into him 2 weeks ago. He said his did it. So that's 3-3 !! He also added a part in his bolt broke last year while in ND.
Shame they could have such a great shooter with the Versa Eagle(yes half Rem half Benelli) and then screw up the "new" 3" gun.
At least they used the Rem chokes vs the Pro Bore, I'll give them that.
Whoever you are, your postings are increasingly wildly erratic and make no sense.The Drake said:I have been patient with Rem. My first VM shot a foot high and left, the 2nd broke an extractor in year 3 of use and only its 4th box of 3.5's.
On this thread, you've just mentioned:The Drake said:Post subject: V3 Patterns Today
PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 12:23 pm
Patterned the new V3 28" barrel with Fiocchi 1550fps 1 1/5 oz Max Steel. 30 circle drawn post shot.
Yet, you recently had this to say about the SX3:The Drake said:I will shoot my Versamax this year again with my new SX3 as my back-up gun.
But, despite the "piss poor gas piston system" of the SX3 you claim to have just purchased a new one. Are you waiting for the Browning engineers to call you, so you can fix the miserably poor Activ valve system for them as well?The Drake said:SX3 is a piss poor gas piston system. First the gas spring can and will break its just a matter of when. Second the system really doesnt work effectively, shoot different loads and you will the ejection distnacs are the very very close. Do that with a good gun with a good gas design and you will see the ejections are vastly different, meaning the system is working and reducing recoil and regulating itself.......
In June, "The Drake" had this to say about the V3:The Drake said:3 years and my Versamax has never jammed (did break an extractor shooting 3.5" the 3rd year)......2 months on the V3 and so far so good.
The Drake said:Its truly a self cleaning system, 4500 degree gas pushed out through the ports at 10,000 PSI........by far the best gas system ever made !!
No springs to break like the Beretta's and Brownings do. My Maxus puked a gas spring at 1000 3" loads and my friends Xtrema2 did his at less than 1000 3" loads. Browning told me it could happen again in 10 shots or 10,000- Beretta took 5.5 months to fix my friends Xtrema as the springs were back ordered for 4 months.
You truly are the blowhard of the gun industry. This nonsensical post proves my point to its fullest.RandyWakeman said:The "Drake" has a lot of problems keeping his sometimes entertaining, but often nonsensical, always anonymous stories straight.The Drake said:The blowback in your face actually comes from where the receiver and the forearm meet. I did a ton of testing with duct tape to narrow it down.
For those that say it doesn't exist are just not being honest. Mine did it, my hunting buddys did it and the guy I let shoot mine last summer bought one. I ran into him 2 weeks ago. He said his did it. So that's 3-3 !! He also added a part in his bolt broke last year while in ND.
Shame they could have such a great shooter with the Versa Eagle(yes half Rem half Benelli) and then screw up the "new" 3" gun.
At least they used the Rem chokes vs the Pro Bore, I'll give them that.
Whoever you are, your postings are increasingly wildly erratic and make no sense.The Drake said:I have been patient with Rem. My first VM shot a foot high and left, the 2nd broke an extractor in year 3 of use and only its 4th box of 3.5's.
You claim to have been patterning your V3, back in April:
On this thread, you've just mentioned:The Drake said:Post subject: V3 Patterns Today
PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 12:23 pm
Patterned the new V3 28" barrel with Fiocchi 1550fps 1 1/5 oz Max Steel. 30 circle drawn post shot.
Yet, you recently had this to say about the SX3:The Drake said:I will shoot my Versamax this year again with my new SX3 as my back-up gun.
But, despite the "piss poor gas piston system" of the SX3 you claim to have just purchased a new one. Are you waiting for the Browning engineers to call you, so you can fix the miserably poor Activ valve system for them as well?The Drake said:SX3 is a piss poor gas piston system. First the gas spring can and will break its just a matter of when. Second the system really doesnt work effectively, shoot different loads and you will the ejection distnacs are the very very close. Do that with a good gun with a good gas design and you will see the ejections are vastly different, meaning the system is working and reducing recoil and regulating itself.......
Back in May, "The Drake" had this to say about the V3:In June, "The Drake" had this to say about the V3:The Drake said:3 years and my Versamax has never jammed (did break an extractor shooting 3.5" the 3rd year)......2 months on the V3 and so far so good.
The Drake said:Its truly a self cleaning system, 4500 degree gas pushed out through the ports at 10,000 PSI........by far the best gas system ever made !!
No springs to break like the Beretta's and Brownings do. My Maxus puked a gas spring at 1000 3" loads and my friends Xtrema2 did his at less than 1000 3" loads. Browning told me it could happen again in 10 shots or 10,000- Beretta took 5.5 months to fix my friends Xtrema as the springs were back ordered for 4 months.
It is getting pretty weird, so very odd that you can't make this stuff up. Somehow, some way, a gun that was "2 months on the V3 and so far so good" back in May mysteriously generates a new dedicated blowback rant / thread ... in August. After ranting about your Maxus, going off about someone else's Xtrema2, praising the V3 after supposedly five or more months of use, now you are claiming to somehow being "patient with Remington." You sound more than a little confused. If Beretta's and Browning's truly suck (and the Winchester SX3 "is a piss poor gas piston system") as you have long claimed, what could your beef with the far more affordable V3 possibly be, a gun that you claim "has by far the best gas system ever made" ?
It is hard to come up with the name of any shotgun manufacturer that wants your business, and why would they?
So can any clever third-grader that is anonymous. That is always a real problem with anonymous banter from anonymous sources: a complete lack of competent documentation. It isn't news at all.The Drake said:See Randy,I can say exactly what myself and my close friends experience with guns.
Your knowledge is limited, severely.The Drake said:RandyWakeman said:The Drake said:The blowback in your face actually comes from where the receiver and the forearm meet. I did a ton of testing with duct tape to narrow it down.
Moose,moosehead1 said:Nevermind, I just went back and read a bunch of posts between you and Drake, there is obviously some history there..
That's what "fake news" is. It doesn't so much as get to the point of dismissing: gossip is gossip, hearsay is hearsay, and unverifiable information is just that: it is non-information, non-researchable, and unreliable. You cannot get sworn in anonymously, you don't have an anonymous driver's license, an anonymous credit card, you can't get an anonymous plane ticket. A third-grader cannot take a test anonymously, or hand in a report anonymously.moosehead1 said:True there will be some that hide behind the anonymous curtain to start something but I haven't see it very often and I like to hear the good and bad..
The Drake said:The SX3/Maxus is a poor gas design and it is widely known to break. Mine in my Maxus broke after 2 years. Bought the SX3 as there are fixes for this design flaw.
Yep patterned the V3 the day I got it. Good patterning gun but no where near the GREAT choke system of the Browning and Win with their overbored .742 barrel.
Yep, buddies Xtrema2 has been a pile. Is what it is, and the customer service was the worst you could imagine 5 months for parts.
The Drake said:Mon Jun 06, 2016
Rem has done a horrific job or marketing this gun and rolling it out.
The Drake said:Mon Jul 18, 2016
Remington Management should all be fired !!!!!
They make this great gun and their roll out of it is non existent !!!
This is the type of stuff you might expect from ill-mannered grade-schoolers. Yelling "suck" all the time isn't informational, either.The Drake said:Sun Jul 24, 2016
..........Remington just flat out sucks at marketing !!!!
I'd send it back to Remington a second time, of course, without delay.DE said:My one and only V3 had the blowback problem. To Remington's credit they promptly replaced the barrel. The next barrel did not blow back, but it shot a whole pattern to the right at 45 yards. I verified it both offhand and on a bench.
Of course, it doesn't have to be verifiable or even true, just as long as YOU said it?RandyWakeman said:That's what "fake news" is. It doesn't so much as get to the point of dismissing: gossip is gossip, hearsay is hearsay, and unverifiable information is just that: it is non-information, non-researchable, and unreliable. You cannot get sworn in anonymously, you don't have an anonymous driver's license, an anonymous credit card, you can't get an anonymous plane ticket. A third-grader cannot take a test anonymously, or hand in a report anonymously.moosehead1 said:True there will be some that hide behind the anonymous curtain to start something but I haven't see it very often and I like to hear the good and bad..
Considering the good and bad is of course reasonable, but anonymous good and anonymous bad are both equally unreliable. Old wive's tales aren't only from old wives. Most everyone is familiar with Chinese Whispers by now, as well as urban legends. It is not what the content is that is important: the point is merely that it is not verifiable and therefore not reliable.
Whether the comments are all positive, all negative, or a bit of both is immaterial. Whether they are verifiable and therefore reliable sources of information is the whole point. Who doesn't want reliable information?
The Drake said:The SX3/Maxus is a poor gas design and it is widely known to break. Mine in my Maxus broke after 2 years. Bought the SX3 as there are fixes for this design flaw.
Yep patterned the V3 the day I got it. Good patterning gun but no where near the GREAT choke system of the Browning and Win with their overbored .742 barrel.
Yep, buddies Xtrema2 has been a pile. Is what it is, and the customer service was the worst you could imagine 5 months for parts.The Drake said:Mon Jun 06, 2016
Rem has done a horrific job or marketing this gun and rolling it out.The Drake said:Mon Jul 18, 2016
Remington Management should all be fired !!!!!
They make this great gun and their roll out of it is non existent !!!This is the type of stuff you might expect from ill-mannered grade-schoolers. Yelling "suck" all the time isn't informational, either.The Drake said:Sun Jul 24, 2016
..........Remington just flat out sucks at marketing !!!!
This is not just fake news, it is just plain wrong. The SX3 has no fixes to the Active valve system (what are they, any clue?), no they don't all break, no there is no basis to claim better patterns out of a .742 barrel vs. anything else. All hogwash, without any basis. If stuff like this had any basis in reality, Maxus and SX3 shotguns would be off the market and would have been long ago. Factory Invector + chokes have consistently produced among the lowest pattern percentages of any OEM choke tubes on the market. There is no greatness there. This is just bad information.
After 85 pages in the "Remington Lovers Forum" on the V3, just how far off topic can it be?
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I've fired countless new synthetic V3's, cases of them right off the UPS truck, along with dozens of other shooters: young, old, male, female. I have yet to experience any blowback nor has anyone that I know personally. If I do, I'll report it along with the specific model of V3 and the shell or shells that were used. I can't report something that I've not experienced yet in the last couple of years.
You can't prove a negative, of course, but that's what the lifetime warranty is for.
The V3 is the best autoloading shotgun that Remington has ever made. Regardless of who makes it, when a gun is real problem, it gets mentioned. That was exactly the case with the Remington 105 Cti auto and the Remington 887 NitroMag pump. The 887 was my "Clunker of the Year" for 2009: "The "new for 2009" Remington NitroMag 887, is the worst shotgun I've tested in a decade. There are no runners-up, as the Remington 887 attempt is in a class of its own." Apparently the 105 Cti and the 887 lived up to my reviews, for those two models are history. :shock:naildriver said:I found a used 26" synthetic V3 last week at my LGS - traded for it Friday .
I hope it lives up to Randy's reviews !!!
I'm sure it will , Randy does a good job on his reviews and I Appreciate having him on this forum .