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I looking at some used Mossberg .410s on the internet ( UK ) they are all around the same price but a couple look older and have 26" barrels, one looks quite new with a 24" barrel and fitted recoil pad. My question is are the older Mossberg 500 .410s more reliable than the newer models ?
Brand new Mossberg shotguns are expensive over here or I would buy new.
 
Gamekeeper said:
I looking at some used Mossberg .410s on the internet ( UK ) they are all around the same price but a couple look older and have 26" barrels, one looks quite new with a 24" barrel and fitted recoil pad. My question is are the older Mossberg 500 .410s more reliable than the newer models ?
Brand new Mossberg shotguns are expensive over here or I would buy new.
I doubt the older ones are more reliable, but they likely have nicer wood. Also, the longer barrel is desirable, IMO.
 
One thing to consider is that some of the barrel lengths had different chokes, like the 20" I believe had a MOD while the longer barrels had a Full,

I did have one a few years back that had a 24" and a Mod choke, not sure the age.

Also the 500 .410 is known for feeding issues, most of mine did, I called mossberg and they sent me new shell stops etc at no charge and it was a 10 min fix, annoying but the parts came fast and I new ahead of time it may be an issue, having had a few in the past. Although being in the UK you may have to wait a bit longer for parts Just be aware.

My newest one has been 100% reliable.
also winchester ammo is the most trouble free as far as feeding.

Good luck!
 
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Thanks Kal52, being in the UK is more of a problem than you think, Winchester .410 ammo is unbelievably expensive $27.42 for 25 and that's if you can find them :shock: and used Mossberg's are more expensive than new ones in the States.
I have just ordered a X Ring survival reloader because availability of .410 shells is pretty restricted over here too.
 
Gamekeeper said:
Thanks Kal52, being in the UK is more of a problem than you think, Winchester .410 ammo is unbelievably expensive $27.42 for 25 and that's if you can find them :shock: and used Mossberg's are more expensive than new ones in the States.
I have just ordered a X Ring survival reloader because availability of .410 shells is pretty restricted over here too.
Should be joining the 410 Mossberg club very soon too, as I have made a deal to buy one that has been Hushpower converted

I think I gave my 2 boxes of Eley 410 ammo to a mate a few years ago when he was looking for a 410 for his young daughter to use. I also loaned him/her a Webley bolt action for free...

The plan with my Mossberg 410 is to home load the ammo, but using converted .303 brass.
If you look at the website four ten dot org dot uk you will find a lot of data on there about the caliber and the best way to feed the guns that take it...
The all brass cases I make should allow for reloading without the need for a press or too much special tooling. They can also be made from 444 brass.
I'm doing 50 to start with, but as I have several hundred spare 303 cases, I can easily make more as I feel the need...assuming my 500, when it arrives, takes a liking to them!
 
Repeat ten times: A shotgun is not a rifle. Start now: A shotgun is not a rifle. A shotgun is not a rifle. A shotgun is not a ...

Please just buy your .410 shotshells and slugs. How many could you possibly shoot, anyway? Good luck, sir.
 
wfb18 said:
Repeat ten times: A shotgun is not a rifle. Start now: A shotgun is not a rifle. A shotgun is not a rifle. A shotgun is not a ...

Please just buy your .410 shotshells and slugs. How many could you possibly shoot, anyway? Good luck, sir.
He'll be lucky to buy slugs in the UK

1. I've not seem them sold/stocked commercially
2. They are classed as rifle ammunition so you need a different licence to purchase/own, and even then the qty allowed is laughable (In the UK, shotgun slugs fall between nuclear warheads and chemical weapons in the presumed lethality scale....)
 
Metal cases for shotgun shells is not a new idea, in fact, they use to be pretty common back in the paper shell days. Brass cases were often for reloaders back then. The metal lasted well, is reloadable several times, and was used by quite a few people that reloaded their own shells, also had the advantage being able to avoid looking for some scarce load, because you could just concoct your own.

You can still find them.
https://www.buffaloarms.com/reloading-s ... hells.html

So they are not necessarily for rifles.
 
I own a newer Mossberg .410 that I bought for the wife and kid to use for their gun safety classes. The kid grew out of it in about ten rounds, the wife will shoot it, but, it really isn’t her thing. I sent it to Mike Orlen and had it cut for choke tubes. I bought an IC and a MOD choke. Haven’t used the gun enough myself to come to conclusions about using it, save, that the MOD tube seems to be the hot tip, but, it feeds ammunition just fine. The newer .410s seem to feed better. Using 3” ammunition, with the factory cut full choke saw a very tight little pattern out to 25 yards or so, with it blooming to almost useless at 30 yards. Weird.
The Wolf Creek powered metal safeties are the bomb on the Mossberg 500. A modification I heartily recommend.

Phage
 
Phage states: "Using 3” ammunition, with the factory cut full choke saw a very tight little pattern out to 25 yards or so, with it blooming to almost useless at 30 yards. Weird."

Welcome to the world of .410 patterns!

I was told many years ago, to never pattern a .410 because it would shake your confidence in it to the point it might effect your shooting! I agree because I did a little bit of pattern work and quickly stopped!

Since that day I have adhered to the "ignorance is bliss" school for the .410. It works for me.
Good luck!
 
If I ever get to the point where I shoot birds out of trees (not there yet, but, I may age into it, who knows) I’d use the .410. We still have it, but, it has to been used since the boy and mom did their gunsafety course.

Best,
Ted
 
Where are you seeing a screw choked model 500 .410? The online catalog list the turkey gun as an extended extra full choke, but, you can’t buy that choke, or, any other choke tubes from Mossberg, for a .410.


The 18” barrel .410 is listed as a fixed cylinder or modified choke, the 24” is fixed full. I had to send my .410 to Mike Orlen to have the barrel cut for tubes, and they were colonial tubes, not Mossberg.
I would have bought a 500 with screw chokes, when I bought mine, but, they didn’t list one.

Phage
 
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