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Why limit yourself to O/U? There are cheap autos out there that are good and perfect for Hunting. Mossberg SĄ-20, Weatherby SĄ-8 (same Gun with "weatherby" on the receiver and + $100). I have a Weatherby in 20 ga. Got it for $200 on Gunbroker for $200 from a pawnbroker. Love it. Reliabe, very light, łów recoil, Composite stock. So, it doesn’t matter if you drop it in the mud, in a river, or on pile of rocks. I had several Citori superlights and was constantly worried about dinging the stock. BTW, I drove over a Winchester SX-3 with my pickup. No damage. So, If you plan to hunt driven birds in Scotland,, a Citori Superlight in grade VI is a good choice (around $8,000 if you can find one) or a decent Perazzi for $15,000.

So, the real question boils down to do you want to seriously hunt, or pretend you’re hunting and don’t want to be looked down upon by your peers.
you last paragraph sez it all lol. I see guys with pre 64 model 70's owned them for 50 years with perfect walnut stocks. never went out of the house with it. I switched to all synthetic stocks for hunting cause I scratch my guns cleaning them lol
 
Yet that is the best answer....
Regardless ....it is still NOT an answer to his question....it is just more opinions....

Why can't folks honest when a person asks a specific question ....he did NOT ask what was the best "shotgun" for less than $600 ....BUT he asked the best O/U shotgun for less then $600 .... Is that something folks can NOT understand?
 
Regardless ....it is still NOT an answer to his question....it is just more opinions....

Why can't folks honest when a person asks a specific question ....he did NOT ask what was the best "shotgun" for less than $600 ....BUT he asked the best O/U shotgun for less then $600 .... Is that something folks can NOT understand?
I'll say this again. His whole question is SUBJECTIVE which means he will ONLY get OPINIONS! These is no objective "right" answer to his question.

These people are being honest. It's dishonest to recommend trash.
 
Sometimes folks get fixated on one thing and have a difficult time considering alternatives. It wasn’t an opinion, it was a question. Serious hunting for grouse will many times involve busting brush in and around swamps. Standing in one place and shooting birds driven to you is not hunting, it’s shooting. That being said, there is nothing more pleasurable than walking down an old logging road with dappled splotches of sun making it through the rustling leaves with a close hunting Brittany as your companion, the temp at about 66°, an hour before sunset. As you get into the moment a grouse thunders out of the brush, scares the be- Jesus out of you, you drop your gun onto a sharp rock, and you can hear the grouse laughing away into the sunset. That’s why a composite stock is so perfect.
 
I'll say this again. His whole question is SUBJECTIVE which means he will ONLY get OPINIONS! These is no objective "right" answer to his question.

These people are being honest. It's dishonest to recommend trash.
Is it your opinion that an 870 is an over under?

You guys gotta realize that you sound like stuck up snobs when you tell a guy he shouldnt buy what he wants, but instead buy something totally different that YOU think is the best use for his money. The whole $1500-2500 o/u for bird hunting or you are wasting your money is the most stuck up high horse crap that is ever said on this forum. Its worse than fly fisherman saying you are wasting your time fishing with a rod under $600. Or golfers saying a set of irons under $1000 are unplayable and a waste.

Be respectful to others and answer the question the guy asked. He asked for an over under shotgun, not your opinion on if a $600 over under bird gun is worth buying.
 
Sometimes folks get fixated on one thing and have a difficult time considering alternatives. It wasn’t an opinion, it was a question. Serious hunting for grouse will many times involve busting brush in and around swamps. Standing in one place and shooting birds driven to you is not hunting, it’s shooting. That being said, there is nothing more pleasurable than walking down an old logging road with dappled splotches of sun making it through the rustling leaves with a close hunting Brittany as your companion, the temp at about 66°, an hour before sunset. As you get into the moment a grouse thunders out of the brush, scares the be- Jesus out of you, you drop your gun onto a sharp rock, and you can hear the grouse laughing away into the sunset. That’s why a composite stock is so perfect.
Not really, no.....plus, I never have been scared by a grouse flush into dropping my scattergun in 50+ seasons.

If that is a problem, I suggest squeezing a tennis ball.....as the dropping unlikelihood has zero place with ruffed grouse gun selection or ...the OP's question for that matter. :)

An interesting world when advising a pump-action scattergun defines one as a snob.
 
I've never had a problem with my 20ga Stoeger Condor, or my 28ga Yildiz Legacy.

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Is it your opinion that an 870 is an over under?

You guys gotta realize that you sound like stuck up snobs when you tell a guy he shouldnt buy what he wants, but instead buy something totally different that YOU think is the best use for his money. The whole $1500-2500 o/u for bird hunting or you are wasting your money is the most stuck up high horse crap that is ever said on this forum. Its worse than fly fisherman saying you are wasting your time fishing with a rod under $600. Or golfers saying a set of irons under $1000 are unplayable and a waste.

Be respectful to others and answer the question the guy asked. He asked for an over under shotgun, not your opinion on if a $600 over under bird gun is worth buying.
Nope. It's my OPINION that you cannot buy a good O/U for $600 and you would be way better served getting something else. If he gets 50 answers that say "save your money and don't buy a O/U for $600 and instead get a pump" and 2 answers that recommend a "Guatemalan brand X O/U," that's valuable data for him to make his decision.

I would want that when I ask advice for any subjective question. What I wouldn't want is bad advice. The whole point of even asking advice is so you don't make a mistake.
 
Regardless ....it is still NOT an answer to his question....it is just more opinions....

Why can't folks honest when a person asks a specific question ....he did NOT ask what was the best "shotgun" for less than $600 ....BUT he asked the best O/U shotgun for less then $600 .... Is that something folks can NOT understand?
I agree completely with you. This is why threads often end up with one hundred plus answers - of which about 5 actually addressed the question
I am new to this forum and to shotguns in general so sorry if this topic has already been discussed but I was wondering what the best low cost o/u for upland bird hunting is, I don’t want to spend too much more than $600.
If you can't answer the question that was asked, you should simply not reply. Or if you are going to suggest an alternative, at least provide an answer to the question... "IMHO the best low cost O/U is brand XXX and here's why. Since you're new to hunting, you might want to consider a <INSERT YOUR FAVORITE ACTION TYPE HERE> shotgun and here's why."
 
I trust any poster to be wise enough to sift any answers received...feeding them simple gruel with a spoon seems a bit disrespectful of an adult's ability and, quite honestly, offers little more than what can be found on an Internet search.
Asking a question on a somewhat dedicated forum should yield a diversity of experience-based views and opinions....simple answers or high-fives seems such a waste....of experience and of the mistakes which we all have made.;)

But, if such truly does not appeal then stick to an Internet search of catalogs at midnight.
 
Nope. It's my OPINION that you cannot buy a good O/U for $600 and you would be way better served getting something else. If he gets 50 answers that say "save your money and don't buy a O/U for $600 and instead get a pump" and 2 answers that recommend a "Guatemalan brand X O/U," that's valuable data for him to make his decision.

I would want that when I ask advice for any subjective question. What I wouldn't want is bad advice. The whole point of even asking advice is so you don't make a mistake.

See and your opinion should have been kept to yourself out of respect. Since your opinion did not answer his question at all. He did not ask if he should buy a gun, in that case your opinion would have been useful and relevant.

Your opinion on the best budget o/u is different than your opinion that he should buy a pump. One is pertinent and respectful, the other is self righteous and unnecessary.

I understand why the OP didnt show up again. I dont know if you have ever had this happen to you, but I have and it is a terrible feeling.. especially as your first post on a forum. He wants to buy an o/u and has a budget to follow, and people have the nerve to tell him he doesnt have enough money and to buy a cheap pump. What a terrible feeling. Youd get punched in the mouth if you said that to someones face. The nerve and lack of respect of some people...
 
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