Is it legal, and safe, to have your box of shells on the ground, then bend down and pick up a shell and load it into your gun?
Thanks,
Randy
Thanks,
Randy
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So in your opinion, are the lives of the gold and bronze medal winners of this recent ISSF Grand Prix in danger from the silver medal winner in this picture?I don’t want swept with the muzzle of any firearm open or closed at any time. It is irresponsible.
Yes. The tenant of gun safety. All firearms are to be treated the same. Publicity pictures of that caliber are directly opposed to all gun safety ethics. I don’t care if it is the Olympics or in the back yard.So in your opinion, are the lives of the gold and bronze medal winners of this recent ISSF Grand Prix in danger from the silver medal winner in this picture?
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Yes...yes they are. I don't shoot trap much, but I'm pulled from SC courses a few times a year for open shoots with buddies. Once, even as the gentleman to my right watched me snap in a shell-catch, I was issued an aggressive warning. "That shell doohickey better work!!...I don't want my super-duper, triple secret, quintuple-X, feather-crotch, insane-burl stock getting dinged!!". I simply assured him that this shell catch works "more often than not"...he shot horribly🤣. Gotta remember that strategic tactic.Don’t bother me shooting sporting clays and 5 stand.
Trapshooters are too easily disturbed…
I had attended a coach's training course a couple of years ago. The instructors of the course highly discouraged this practice. Every time you bend over the blood rushes to your head and the pressures in the eyeball increase changing how fast your eyes can refocus. He said that it takes about 90-120 seconds for the eyeball pressure to get back to normal or what it was before you bent over. He personally was having eye problems and this was explained to him by his eye doctor.Is it legal, and safe, to have your box of shells on the ground, then bend down and pick up a shell and load it into your gun?
Thanks,
Randy
apparently, It is not about whether the practice affects your shots or not. Rather, the issue is how dangerous it might be for your open O/U to “sweep” somebody as you reach down for some ammo to grab.This is blowing my mind. I’ve been loading my o/u this way. I never considered it affecting my shots.
So these 3 HOA winners at an NSSA event in California are each guilty of sweeping?Yes. The tenant of gun safety. All firearms are to be treated the same. Publicity pictures of that caliber are directly opposed to all gun safety ethics. I don’t care if it is the Olympics or in the back yard.
By definition, yes, its fairly obvious.So these 3 HOA winners at an NSSA event in California are each guilty of sweeping?
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It's even more disturbing to be standing next to a shooter with a simi-auto shotgun and getting hit by empty hulls in the face or landing in the hands.Why wouldn't it be? Sorry, I don't understand the question.
Edit: I didn't read the Thread category first and realize it was a trap shooting discipline that was being discussed. I get it now.
It is a real disturbance to most to have someone bending over to get shells from ground level while shooting.
That used to happen fairly often when I shot a lot of 5 stand. After a while I just learned to ignore it for the most part.It's even more disturbing to be standing next to a shooter with a simi-auto shotgun and getting hit by empty hulls in the face or landing in the hands.
Mike
1. Is it legal? YesIs it legal, and safe, to have your box of shells on the ground, then bend down and pick up a shell and load it into your gun?
Thanks,
Randy
Yep. Inefficient, but legal.Is it legal, and safe, to have your box of shells on the ground, then bend down and pick up a shell and load it into your gun?
Thanks,
Randy
Iam a trap shooter, I keep a spare pouch in my bag, I make it available to shooters in cases like this. It shows respect to my squadmates and helps educate others. Seems simple enough.At any ATA shoot the rule you would be at risk at is "disrupting the harmony of the shoot". Or doing something some other competitor would consider disruptive and file a complaint with management or worse, file one with the ATA. Most disrupters do receive discipline from the ATA in the form of losing members rights, including attending for a determined length of time. Six months would be common. Not certain if something like this has ever happened since most ATA shooters are experienced, follow rules and common ethics.
Also know that most all trap ranges adopt comprehensive ATA rules out of convenance. Same for NSSA and NSCA rule being adopted for skeet and sporting. In the case of non-registered local shoots management may not enforce all the ATA rules and have preference to those shooters involved in the controversy. The guy everyone knows, likes and respects will get the nod.
BTW..... anyone bending over picking ammo on the line would be considered a complete newby needing advise. If just trying to be a jackass, the club and management doesn't need any more of those.
Maltz
I would say no...but, that a concern may be found in sweeping a barrel, perhaps from being in a hurry, on the line with shooting actually ongoing.So in your opinion, are the lives of the gold and bronze medal winners of this recent ISSF Grand Prix in danger from the silver medal winner in this picture?
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