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Efficiency, avoidance of OCD and/or superstition, the KISS principle, the ability of other professionals to shoot with 5-7 seconds between shooting their second target of a pair and calling pull for the next pair.
Info I saw on preshot routine does not contain things you mentioned.

You have some links? What's the source of info?
 
Cal--great question. My goal is to still compete in open. I'm still winning points in my age group(very old) but my goal is always to win.

But more than that --to have fun. In about 2012 I tried to make the All American team. I shot a lot. I ended the year w/ 6000 points. I needed 8000 to make the top 30 (All Am team). Around here , back then, if you won the shoot outright you might get 16 points. So I ran out of year (and gas) . After that I quit chasing points and make a goal of supporting the clubs that do it right.
 
PSR-- look at the show birds til they hit the ground. Make a plan for shooting them (incl the right method), set your feet correctly. CLEAR your head and say pull. More than that is fluff.

when you miss , change the plan. Never helps to micro-change your perceived lead. That leads to gun watching.
 
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Cal--great question. My goal is to still compete in open. I'm still winning points in my age group(very old) but my goal is always to win.

But more than that --to have fun. In about 2012 I tried to make the All American team. I shot a lot. I ended the year w/ 6000 points. I needed 8000 to make the top 30 (All Am team). Around here , back then, if you won the shoot outright you might get 16 points. So I ran out of year (and gas) . After that I quit chasing points and make a goal of supporting the clubs that do it right.
Thx for being open about your motivation.

What I see, correct me if I'm wrong: primary motivation is to have a good time, enjoy the process. But competition drive is still there. It's just not as big and ambitious.

If we switch those two, let's say perform on top10 level at state/regionals in next 5 years. Would your PSR remain the same?
 
PSR-- look at the show birds til they hit the ground. Make a plan for shooting them (incl the right method), set your feet correctly. CLEAR your head and say pull. More than that is fluff.

when you miss , change the plan. Never helps to micro-change your perceived lead. That leads to gun watching.
Are you sure you don't do bunch of ther stuff? And you're just not aware of those - they became so automatic
 
My PSR would not change a bit. If you are computing on the course , you did not put enough time into training.
 
Mine is for fitasc, so it differs a little bit

1)Look, plan, think outside of the box. Until have a plan with some degree of confidence. Check it, rehearse it, visualize it, etc
2) right before the hoop self check for running thoughts, attempts to get into a right body state. STOP all that. It's execution time
PSR itself
1 step in and wiggle around to find a correct position for feet (according to a plan)
2 Visualize entire shot with emphasis on a setup (landscape points, insert point, hp, eyes, BP, etc)
3 drop 1 shell and Visualize first target: target/gun insertion , the feel of movement (target speed) and the way I want to look&see the target at BP and attack vector (this part heavily depends on method)
3.1) same for doubles with eyes transition between dropping shells)
4 into ready position (body, hp, etc). Breathe and relax, remove unneeded tension, balance
5 settle eyes (stop them, unfocus, move visual attention toward machine) - here also good deep breathing, helps with clearing mind
6 Inhale and call
 
Mine is for fitasc, so it differs a little bit

1)Look, plan, think outside of the box. Until have a plan with some degree of confidence. Check it, rehearse it, visualize it, etc
2) right before the hoop self check for running thoughts, attempts to get into a right body state. STOP all that. It's execution time
PSR itself
1 step in and wiggle around to find a correct position for feet (according to a plan)
2 Visualize entire shot with emphasis on a setup (landscape points, insert point, hp, eyes, BP, etc)
3 drop 1 shell and Visualize first target: target/gun insertion , the feel of movement (target speed) and the way I want to look&see the target at BP and attack vector (this part heavily depends on method)
3.1) same for doubles with eyes transition between dropping shells)
4 into ready position (body, hp, etc). Breathe and at relax, remove unneeded tension, balance
5 settle eyes (stop them, unfocus, move visual attention toward machine)
6 Inhale and call
Now that you’ve explained your PSR in detail,
estimate how long it takes you to execute the routine to conclusion of shooting twice at a single or completing the pair. On average.
 
What's your preshot routine? What items, steps do you include?
If I'm first up:

1. I watch each show target to the ground. I don't point at and follow any target with my hand.

2. Decide what each target's break point is (using a background point if available.)

3. Determine the location of the initial hold point, and where my gun will go after shooting the first target (using a background point for each if possible.)

4. Determine how I plan on breaking each target.

5. Establish stance.

6. Load the gun.

7. Check my mount.

8. Point the gun on-line at the hold point for the first target.

9. Set my eyes to the look point.

10. Call pull.

After my second shot on pairs I unload my gun, load it again, consider any tweaks to my plan, establish my stance if I moved my feet, and proceed with #7 above.

If I'm not first up:

* I don't point at/follow any of the targets with my hand while I've been watching,

* From the shooting position, I verify my planned break points, hold point for the first target, and gun movement plan for the second target , (I don't point at any of these locations with either my hand or my gun. I just stand there and look at these locations), then proceed with #5 above.

I've never been timed (that I know of), but my guess is I'm in the 5-8 second range between my last shot and calling pull for the next pair. If I executed my plan and killed both targets then it's probably around 5 seconds. I don't want to break my focus and I want to stay in the groove. No distractions.
 
PSR vs plan… There’s the plan we make for the station, then there’s the PSR we go through before each pair so as to best implement said plan.

My plan is fairly detailed based on watching views and other shooters, from this I select type of move, BP1 & 2, LP, HP and transition and insertion points; these will determine my stance.

Now I run a PSR which depending on my mental/physical state or shooting conditions, which can vary day to day or even between stations from a simple “see it well!” to a combination of some or all of, a pre-visualization of the last 15% or so of each shot, relaxation drill, mind-quieting drill, breathing drill, quiet eye, reminder to match speed at end, reminder to see it well or watch it break or ramp up focus.

I then confirm, adjust or completely revise my plan based on the results on that first pair. But my PSR being based on personal and situational factors usually won’t change much even when I alter the plan significantly.
 
PSR vs plan… There’s the plan we make for the station, then there’s the PSR we go through before each pair so as to best implement said plan.
Yes, an important distinction. I'd say that items 1-4 on Notch's list are actually making a plan, and items 6-9 are the PSR.
 
See the paragraph after my #10 (post 114.)

If there is no change to my plan, then my plan is to repeat what I just did.
Then it’s clearly two separate parts; a plan for the station then your PSR before each pair to execute said plan :)
 
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