I made the change from 28" barrels to 32" barrels for my O/U. IMHO this is my biggest waste of money on equipment.
28" barrels to 32" barrels for O/U
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Beware the man with one gun, he probably knows how to shoot it. I am an old man who, when I was young, had old men as friends. Most of them had one shotgun used for everything, and they did pretty well with it. Trap guns and field guns are set up of different enough to screw you up if you hunt and shoot for sport. You might try picking one gun and just sticking with it for all of your shooting. Give it a year or so for a fair test.
I can certainly agree with that.
How can adding weight to the ends of the barrels move weight "back between the hands"?
While it might move the center of gravity (balance point) forward, placing it more nearly "between the hands", it only moves mass (weight) away from the balance point.
I like a muzzle-heavy target shotgun, so longer barrels on my target guns are a good thing.
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34s are the new 32 and when 34s are the norm I don’t think we’ll see 36 starting to gain traction. IMO when we see the majority shooting 34s the pendulum will start swinging the other way and 30s will be the new bestest
Most DON'T like a muzzle heavy gun.
Weighting a stock to balance the long tubes brings the weight back between the hands while adding rotary inertia... smooths the swing. Do what YOU like.
To each his own.
Weighting a stock doesn't bring the weight back between the hands, it moves more weight to the end of the gun.
Adding weight to either the muzzle or the buttstock increases polar moment of inertia, but it does not move the weight (mass) to the center of the gun.
I think you and I have different definitions of "weight between the hands". To me, "weight between the hand" means the majority of the gun's mass/weight is in the area of the receiver.
It appears that to you it means "where the gun's center of gravity/balance point is located". Does this sound right?
Take a barbell bar, hang two weights on the ends of the bar. The balance point is midway between the two weights.
Now, move the two weights so they are equal distance from the bar's ends, but only one foot apart.
The balance point is still in the exact same place on the bar, but the weight is "between the hands"; the mass is centered. The dynamic of the barbell is then completely different.
I think we are actually in agreement on this, just don't realize it.
Probably... moving the CG back (from ahead of the hinge TO the hinge) IS moving more weight from the forend hand to between the hands. Please, no more engineering lessons... studied it hard at university and had a successful 30 year career of it.I think we are actually in agreement on this, just don't realize it.
I’ve shot autoloaders for everything the last 20 or so years. Decided I wanted to get back into an over/under, for skeet and sporting. Was set on a browning citori cx, but waffled between a 30” and 32” barrel. I was able to check out a 30” at bass pro, but no 32”. After careful consideration and a LOT of opinions from here and other forums, I went with a 32”, sight unseen. It’s been nothing short of perfection for me. My concerns about it being barrel heavy or unwieldy were completely unfounded. One of the best shotgun purchases I’ve ever made!
Good choice.
I really like my 32" CX. I don't think I've shot my 682 Gold E since I got the Browning.
Now if they would only start making them again with the Nitride finish. 😎
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Years ago I sold my my K-20 with 30” barrel set and bought a K-20 with 32” barrel sets because the balance of the 32s was much better. Great skeet gun!!
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I went with fixed 34" on my P gun initially that cost me a bird or two on a short close course, but it evened out with a gain on longer targets. Now that I am used to it its generally better everywhere.
Hopefully browning keeps these mid/high rib guns around. I’ve always been partial to the browning bps for hunting, and the rib height on the CX is very similar to those. I specifically wanted a gun that fit similar to all my pump guns, and this CX delivers. Haven’t shot less than a 24/25 at skeet with it since I got it. Should only get better from here!
I have a 20 gage BPS that seems to hit doves even when the shooter (me) is WAY off the mark. I haven't shot it in ten years, but may have to dig it out on August 31.
For old time's sake.
That's certainly one way of looking at it.
My experience adds another dimension to the theory; I know, and shoot with, a fairly large number of guys who own (and/or have owned) scores of shotguns. These guys can shoot most of those guns with a high degree of competence. I.e. they are good. They shoot a lot, they shoot different disciplines, they hold their own anywhere/anytime.
So, we should also beware the man who has five or fifty quality shotguns; he probably loves shooting and is good at it.
By the way, your last sentence is really good advice.
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You shoot at Markham Park. I will share my experience there and see if you agree.
I have a 30” and 32” Sporter. I find the tight windows on the overgrown Sporting Clays course benefits the slightly quicker 30” but on the open FITASC field the 32” is better.
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I don't understand what you are saying. Are you saying if I shot at Markham Park I would change my opinion??
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