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stonegripper

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What breed would you pick if you could just have one dog?
Must have the following qualities:
1. Upland ability (point, back, retrieve)
2. Calm around kids/in the house
3. Retrieve waterfowl

Interested in knowing your thoughts....Thanks!
 
No disrespect certainly to any other breed....I love 'em all.

But the Lab is the all around "everything" breed for me.

I won't be surprised to see the owner of every other breed saying something similar though. :)
 
Vizsla bar none.

Smaller than labs and no heavy coat.
Hunts fur or feather.
Best kid dog EVER.

BTW these are house dogs ONLY they do not do well in kennels. They have to have their people.

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Here we go again this topic.

In my opinion and that of many other there is one breed that is the best all rounder. The German Wirehaired Pointer or Drauthauer. Points runs all day and will do well in cold water after waterfowl. I huint mine for everything and it is not uncommon to start a morning with ducks and geese and end chasing Pheasants and quail. Their longer coat helps them in thick cover and in colder water.

My 11 month old "puppy" Jedediah.
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Rio and Darby after a 15 minute duck hunt. Rio retrieved all these birds while standing in waist deep water, on me. I hauled an old bar stool in for her to sit in while we waited.
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A day in Kansas last year.
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A day in early teal season. MAn Nebraska is flat.
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Darby's first dove. Best picture i ever took.
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Finally spoiled rotten house dogs. On "Their" couch.
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Ok so Chaco1 is wrong :) :lol:
If you need the longer coat go this route,

Wirehaired Vizsla:
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Actually GWP is a great breed too. I just prefer red dogs.
 
I have owned Wiemers,Springers,Brits,EP,and now on my second GSP. I can say without doubt the best dog is the one up in my lap giving me love and affection at this moment. But, then again I have loved them all. I guess I'm just a dog person.
Chris
 
Much depends on how serious of a waterfowler or upland hunter you are, where you hunt, and what method(s) you use, and time of year. If you are a serious waterfowl hunter who spends most of your time hunting late season over water in the North, then you would be better served with a Lab used as a flusher in the uplands than a pointing dog of some type. I know you asked for a pointer but these two types of hunting have their differences which is why there are specialists. As a rule, pointing dogs do not do well in cold weather when wet, they just don't have the body mass, fat reserves, metabolism, marking ability, or watershedding ability of the Lab. This goes for any of the versatile breeds too; I personally have owned a handful of wirehairs, a shorthair, two Griffons, a Pudelpointer, and have hunted extensvely with four Viszlas, a Spinone, a bunch of Griffons, and more wirehairs and shorthairs than I can count. They have all been decent waterfowl retrievers in normal conditions (water down to the low 40's, air temps in the same range or warmer, winds moderate at less than 20 mph, etc) but when conditions became severe, the dogs began to suffer. When conditions are extreme and/or there are more than a couple of gunners, I borrow a Lab or Chessie.
If you do more upland and the waterfowling is more of a secondary event when the weather isn't "too bad", then one of the versatiles would probably work well. This is where I fit in, my waterfowling is mostly early season and over land so a wet dog in cold conditions is not much of a factor. I find even my Setters and Pointer do a good job of "waterfowling" when needed such as jumpshooting a pond when the opportunity arises or when hunting over a pothole without too much cover.
My suggestion is to pick a dog that fits the type of hunting you do or prefer the most and accept its limitations for the other hunting type. There is no breed that does both waterfowl and upland to perfection, if there were there wouldn't be the number of breeds we have now.
As for getting along with kids, that is more of a training and socialization issue than a breed determination. I have seen dogs of all breeds that hated kids, loved them, or ignored them; the owner's actions determined how well the dogs got along with children.
 
Discussion starter · #9 ·
Thanks for the replies.
Love the pic of the Wirehaired Vizsa! What a cool looking dog.

I've got GSPs and thinking about a GWP or DD. Big difference there according to each club. Also, really like the Vizsla for a hunter/companion. Not sure they can "waterfowl" as much as I want. Is there a large population of the Wirehaired Vizsla?

Labs are great dogs...just not for me.

Thanks again for the replies all.
 
Ok so Chaco1 is wrong
If you need the longer coat go this route,

Wirehaired Vizsla:
No actually you proved me right this is a bearded dog thus a "real Dog". He would qualify in the classification. Gotta love that face. I still think Jeddie is much cuter.
 
Hello, well here is one of the blackpowder cask just waiting to go off. I am partial to pointing labs simply because they can do it all. But there are alot of breeds that are upland/waterfowl. I cannot say I have ever seen a wirehaired viszla. Neat looking dog. And I have not ruled out ever owning a german wirehair/Drathuer. The way Chaco keeps posting those pics of Jed and the gang makes it real tempting. :lol:
 
stonegripper said:
I've got GSPs and thinking about a GWP or DD. Big difference there according to each club.
Yes there is a big difference between the two different lines, just ask someone from the VDD especially!!! I have had both lines (currently one from DD lines) and the only real difference is the DDs get me an extra hundred dollars or so a pup on average. Some claim the DD lines hunt closer and from my own dogs I would agree but I have hunted with some DDs that wanted to keep up with my setters so that thought is not necessarily true. My suggestion for getting a wirehair would be to find a breeder who's line most closely matches your needs. There are too many dog out there that can do the job you are looking for, no sense in limiting your options for no reason.
 
Chaco1,
That sure is a good looking bunch of dogs. I'll probably need to talk to you about a puppy here in a couple of years.

Stone,
Any dog will waterfowl as much as you want. It's about training. The only thing you need to look for is a dog that wants to please you from proven blood lines.

Here is another pic to kick you over the edge with some links:
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http://www.whvca.us/
http://www.wirehairedvizsla.us/
 
Chaco1,
That sure is a good looking bunch of dogs. I'll probably need to talk to you about a puppy here in a couple of years
Thanks. I am not a breeder and have no plans of getting into it. My females are fixed but if Jed proves to be a good hunter he may get to be a daddy. If that happens I will let you know.
 
My favorite is the one I happen to be hunting with at the time. I've had Vizslas, a Wirehair and currently hunt with a Pudelpointer and Shorthair. All four of those can do all of what was asked.

My buddy's got two wirehaired Vizslas. Interesting breed.
 
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