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Are these big mommas for turkey then, or what. I can remember my grandpop bringing in many a honker with a 2.75" Remington. So since new no-tox loads are as good as or superior to lead then the 3.5"s seem like a waste of money.
 

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I bought a Super Mag, but mostly for the better recoil pad, not to shoot the bigger shells. I have the option to do so, but since I hunt predominantly upland and trap they are not necessary. The Super Mag with a 28" bbl is the same length and weight as the three inch gun with 28". Remington did a good job of modifying the bolt do keep the receiver the same size. Besides, now I have a gun that says SUPER MAGNUM on the side, do you? Hehe.
 

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Interesting opinion Scott. The more steel you throw the worse you pattern gets. At a skimp 170 you dont seem to be eating enough. Come to my house and I'll fill your belly with birds taken by 2 3/4" steels. Then we'll take turns punching each other in the shoulder until you give up.
 

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With too much shot all the pellets do is get in the way of each other. Also, more poweder is needed to propel the heavier payload. The bigger shock tends to make more pellets stray as well. I have actually found that with 1 1/8oz #4s at 1400fps I get more pellets in the circle than with any of the 3 1/2" payloads, anything from 1 3/8oz up to 1 9/16oz at any velocity. 1400 fps still gives enough downrange energy with stell for my shooting, out to a bout 50 yards. I recently patterned the new Federal 3.5s and got the same patttern whether I used a IC(mod for steel) or Mod(full for steel).
 

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Yep it is funny that magnum means something different from handguns/rifles to shotguns.
 
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