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Does anyone have any recipes for 410 loads using 2400 powder?
The alliant website says it is recommended but don't have any recipes listed. Thanks

Win AA HS hulls and win wads
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From the Alliant 2004 Guide:

2 1/2" Win.-Western Plastic AA-Type hull.
WAA41 wad.
W209 primer.
1/2 Ounce shot.
13.0 grains 2400.
1,200 FPS.
11,700 PSI.

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.45 Colt--

That's for the old-style CF AA's--he's using the newer HS hulls.

My absolute favorite recipe for the AA HS hulls is an unlisted one, courtesy of D L Marcum:

.410 Win AAHS
12.7gr 2400
WAA410HS or clone
Win 209

This one is a total winner, and thanks again to DLM for turning me on to it many months ago!
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Shoot2reload said:
.My absolute favorite recipe for the AA HS hulls is an unlisted one, courtesy of D L Marcum:

.410 Win AAHS
12.7gr 2400
WAA410HS or clone
Win 209

This one is a total winner, and thanks again to DLM for turning me on to it many months ago!
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What makes it a winner....say over WW-296 or Alliant 410?
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Cicero said:
What makes it a winner....say over WW-296 or Alliant 410?
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Just my opinion here:

The advantages over 296 are the powder texture and ease of ignition.

The big advantage of 2400 over 410 is the loads aren't borderline-anemic (I've found most 410 loads are prone to bloopers). Also, if you subscribe to Case's theory that 410 is hard on the AAHS hulls, then 2400 may be a better choice.

Load some up and shoot 'em...I can't find anything not to like. They're target smashers. Thanks again DLM!
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I used 2400 way back when. I remember the pressures being high....as in fire-forming every irregulary in Purbaugh's ejectors into the Remington and Federal brass.

I gave it up when I went to AA hulls because it just wouldn't fit in that case.
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Do y'all think that AA9 would be better than 2400, especially if i reduce the load some for the kids; btw I shoot these in a single shot 45/410 pistol.
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Danny Abear said:
Do y'all think that AA9 would be better than 2400
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Do you have data for it? The AA loading manuals I have (including the older ones) all mention AA#9 as a .410 powder, but then never deliver on the data. :cry:
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I agree with Shoot2reload.
I too have used the 12.7 gr of 2400 from the beginning of my 410 reloading and shooting.
I have used only the AAHS hulls and the loads are great for skeet.

My thanks also to D L Marcum for his help with this load and many others. In fact he has probably done more to help people with their loads than anyone on the forum or perhaps in all of NSSA. Thanks again Dave.

I am up to my 6th reload on some of the hulls and they still load and crimp just like new. They are getting a little black on the ends but no problems with loading or crimping or misfires. They always go bang when I pull teh trigger.
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I've never tried Aliant but I use Lil Gun and I am totally happy with it. 13 grains in AAs with 1/2oz #9 shot over 209s and AA wads. Great for 410 trap...I love it. :p

Besides I scare the crap out of the 12ga shooters. :twisted:
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Are any of you shooting the 12.7 gr of 2400 in tubes? I'll be giving this load a try in my Briley tubes with Duster wads.

Dan
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DanAKAL said:
Are any of you shooting the 12.7 gr of 2400 in tubes?
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Yes.

DanAKAL said:
I'll be giving this load a try in my Briley tubes with Duster wads.
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Definitely the wrong wad for the AAHS! Yellow Dusters are clones of the original WAA41, which work well in the CF hulls, but are a poor fit in the HS. Stick to the Claybuster clone of the HS (red) wad, or use a Rem SP410.
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Thanks for the info on Dusters. I have some PC wads as well that I'll try. If these don't work I'll be going to OEM wads as I'm finished with Claybusters. I've scrubbed plastic wad fouling left by those wads until I'm just tired. No other wad I have used leaves even 25% of the plastic fouling Claybusters do. After 300 rounds I have considered dunking my barrels in Mineral Spirits to try and loosen it up. Thanks Again for the info.

Dan
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I have used the 12.7 gr of 2400 from the beginning with my Briley tubes and never had a single problem.
I have probably 2,000 reloads through it now.

For you guys who have trouble cleaning your guns specially if you have trouble with plastic and you do if you are shooting plastic wads. You need not have to work so hard if you just go get you a bottle of M PRO 7. It is without doubt the best and easiest to use gun cleaner I have ever encountered.
I use it personally on all of my guns and on ocassion they get very dirty before cleaning.
I have attended some very intensive pistol courses which required shooting 300 to 500 rounds of ammo before noon and only then did we have a chance to clean and lube our guns. This cleaner just flat does the job and as I have said before it don't stink and it is biodegradable.
Now this by itsself may not seem like much but I also use this cleaner on all of my shooting range rental guns, rifles, pistols and tactical shotguns.
I currrently operate nearly 60, rental firearms and all of them are cleaned regularly and all of it has been done with this same cleaner now for the last several years.
Some of these guns have over 100,000 rounds before being replaced and it all has to do with keeping them cleaned and oiled. That is not a guess as we have tracked our rental guns for Glock and Springfield armory and several models of both manufacturers have had more than 100k thru them (without a failure).

Bottom line is I have personal and professional relationship with this cleaner and it works.
BTW no I do not make a dime for selling this or any other product unless of course you come into my business to buy something.

I just wanted to share something I know that really works and I know how difficult plastic buildup can be inside tubes and chokes.
Try it, I have no doubt you will like it and your wife will no longer scream at you for stinking up the house.

Unless of course you have other motives. Maybe your wife will give you an ultimatum as mine did back in 85. She told me either the Hoppes #9 goes or I go.
I still have my Hoppes # 9. IT worked also at the time.
UncleFudd
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