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I am looking at two tubed sets for skeet. One is a 682 (both the original and the E by the way) and the other is a 687 EELL. The EELL is fancier and more than $1k more.

What are the differences?

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I believe the 682 is the true competition gun, while the 686's and 687's are really hunting models with the EELL being the fancy grade, and of course being higher in price.

There are some differences in the receivers such as replacable hinge pins and other things that make the 682's totally rebuildable to original specifications, to compensate for wear when used in exceedingly high volume shooting that can occur in competition shooting. However, for the most part, the receivers are nearly identical.

I believe the 682's are a little heavier than the 686's and 687's also, which is desirable in target guns.

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Thanks for the replies. Sounds like the extra cash for the EELL is not worth it, based on the fact that I am looking for a skeet gun. I don't have hunting on my near term list.

Also, how does the Browning XS Skeet compare to the 682s for function and durability?

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The XS Skeet is my favorite of the current Browning line. It is as durable as any 68X guns. It is a matter of personal preference here. However, the 68X guns are a bit lighter in the barrel. If you are going to have the gun tubed, take this into consideration. For me, the nicely ballenced 525 became quite barrel heavy with the addition of tubes, and took a lot of getting use to... for me. Your milage may vary.

I have a 525, but prefer the XS, and there is also a nice Winchester that I feel is a better gun than my 525, and less money. The triggers on the 525 has quite a bit of slop in it, and Briley informs me that it can not be completely removed because it is part of the design. To remove it will cause double fire. I am not a gunsmith, and am only repeting what Briley has told me about the Browning 525 trigger.

The disapointing part of buying a shotgun is that the manufactures don't seem to pay much attention to where the barrels shoot. It might be preferable to buy a used gun that can be patterned before purchase. I have heard of POI problems with nearly every brand of worth. Don't know about less expensive field guns, but can draw some conslusions.

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David pretty much nailed it...although I don't know of any difference in wieght except perhaps from different stock configurations (more or less wood). I believe the barrels and working parts are identical.

I had a 682 Gold greystone, this is the original 682 Gold that had the nitrate finish. The finish was indestructible and the gun seemed to thrive on use and neglect. Shot is for competition for years without a problem.

The 682 Gold does have replacable barrel shoulders so you can refurbish....but I have never met anyone who ever replaced them and in the four or five years I shot this gun I don't believe I observed any discernable wear.

The EELL is pretty, but that's its only advantage. I'm not sure how they are finishing the EELL receiver metal these days, but I believe it used to be a coin finish which means staying on top of it with gun oil. I prefer a more durable finish for a competition gun which is going to get wet and may stay wet for a few days at a time.

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is going to get wet and may stay wet for a few days at a time.
Or variously, struck by lightening, or blown away in a nasty frontal passage depending on the particular understandings or lack thereof by shoot administrators. :lol:
 

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The 682 and the 687 EELL skeet are mechanically identical with the exception that the 687 does not have a trigger lop adjustment. The later 687 EELL's does not seem to have the same finish as the older ones. The later ones look to be almost raw steel. The nicest skeet gun Beretta ever made in my opinion was the 682 with the greystone finish. Some of them came with very good wood and were a very attractive gun in addition to being very durable.
 

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I think Beretta and most skeet shooters would consider the 682 the competition gun. I thnk the stock configuration is different and that the 682 is heavier. As others have noted, the 682 is made to be rebuilt when parts wear down. Floyd in Vienna
 

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I shoot a '95 682gold with the greystone finish. I would have a very hard time trading it for anything in the world. I shoot targets only, it is a great gun I could highly recommend it especially if it is an older model which I think means it is Itallian made and sadly not american.
 

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I had two 682 1996's greystone, still have one. That vintage and the finish are the best to date. The new gun (gold E) looks like something out of star trek. I sold a 687EELL to buy them because I wanted to use a stock that I had that was for a 682. You can put a 682 stock on a 687EELL by removing the sideplates. Go with the greystone 682, you wont regret it.
 

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I have a 682 Greystone. It is a great gun. I understand your deliberation. For me, there would be no decision to make. I'd take the 682 every time and I'd spend the extra money on shells and targets.
 

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The absense of replaceable barrel shoulders on some 687EELL guns is of no consequence. The barrel shoulders are not replaced as a wear compensator in normal hard use. The locking pin is sometimes replaced with a slightly larger one after tens of thousands of rounds. The poster who mentioned replaceable trunnions (he refers to them as hinge pins, either term describes what they are) on the 682 is apparently not aware that the trunnion pins are replaceable on all 680 series Beretta. The only problem is that they virtually never need to be replaced in normal hard service. Buy the gun whose barrel configuration, rib configuration, and stock dimensions you like the most. There is just no important mechanical reason to pick one over another. By the way, after more than 20 years of hard use and five sets of barrels being switched back and forth, my 682X has had one locking pin replacement, no other adjustments or replacements because of heavy use. My locking pin wear did not cause any looseness in my action, was replaced only because I wanted the top lever position more to the right as it was when the gun was new. Cost me $70 at Beretta USA service department. That is the only repair my gun has ever had.
 
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