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Just aquired a Fox BSE-H can anyone help me with dating by the serial no.B511xxx. Thanks
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The Fox Model B was made by Savage-Stevens, and I believe they came out in the 1950s and were made through the 1970s. Not sure when yours was made.

They were Fox guns in name only, and Fox collectors will tell you they do not match the quality of the A.H. Fox guns made prior to 1929. My father has three Savage Fox B guns, hunting almost exclusively with a Savage Fox BS in 16 gauge he bought new in 1957. It now shows its age and is a bit off face.

The "S" stands for "single trigger", and the "E" stands for "ejector." Not sure what the "H" is for.
Thanks for your help you did answer a couple of questions. My "B" also has a gold trigger. Does the H signify a grade???
I finally took the 12 Fox (Savage)I acquired out and shot some clays. It worked very nicely. great gun. The barrels did not seem to be choked as i expected though. How are they marked for the chokes?

I think the "H" signifies a series, as I've read about the Savage-Fox H Series, but what that means exactly, I haven't a clue.

If your guns are like my father's guns, most likely they're modified and full if someone hasn't opened them up. If I remember correctly, they're not marked, but I could be wrong. However, most American guns of that era were choked more than we tend to use in our guns today.

If you have a set of calipers, you can get a good approximation of how they're choked. The 12 gauge has a bore diameter of 0.729". If you subtract the constriction measurement at the muzzle in inches from 0.729, the difference is the choke constriction.

If the difference is .007"-.013" = imp. cyl.
.014"-.023" = mod.
.032"-.040 = full

Hope this helps.

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I believe the series H designation is similar to the series H designation on Stevens 311's since they are basically "sister" shotguns.
Thanks Quilomene, I guess a lot of poeple wouldn't bother with "cheap" guns but to me they represent the lions share of all the game that ever graced a poor mans table. And I believe you can see the difference between an abused piece and one that has done long and faithful service

One man's junk.....
I agree. The Savage Fox B is a great gun and was made available to those who couldn't afford a Win. 21 but still wanted a newly manufactured double. I can't say how many shells my father shot in his 16 gauge, but I can say that in the 33 years he carried it afield, it would number in the thousands. I have very fond memories of hunting with my father while he carried that gun.

The other B guns he owns is a 12 that I found for him and a .410 that I gave to him for his birthday. He has cancer now, which tires him out quite a bit so he doesn't get out to hunt anymore, but he still takes aim at the starlings that raid my mother's bird feeders.

Both of my grandfather's guns were hardware store guns, my father's father's gun being a single-shot 12. I can say without hesitation that they put a lot of game in the pot.
SE (selective ejectors- will eject fired shell only-one trigger pull,
only one shell ejected-unfired shell should remain in chamber).
I'm pretty sure that is what the "SE" indicates.
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