[oicw]

Any one get 10 or more rounds in their benelli? Is it possible? Does any one know of a place that can custom fabricate a benelli mag extention?

I'm planning on getting a benelli M4 but would like to have 10 rounds in it. A 2 round mag extention is all that Benelli offers for the M4.

 

[JMCCOYB]

Yea, I know a guy who will do it for you.

It will only cost you about $250--or is that price "outrageous"! By the way, it will look like hell-sticking out about 8" beyond the end of the barrel! It will last about 10 rounds or so--if that!

First you want a cheap gunlock, then you want a limited edition Benelli, but not at an outrageous price, now this.

Jesus man, what in the world do you want a 10+ round shotgun for anyway? Or do you know? Have you noticed that NO ONE offers them???? Wonder why? Hint--see above!

Have you ever owned a shotgun before? If so, what was it and what did you use it for?

I give up--good luck!

 

[oicw]

JMCCOYB, I knew that sooner or later someone like you would post a negative reply.

Yes I am new to shotguns so I have a lot of questions. Fortunately the majority of people on this board are really friendly and helpful.

 

[BBStacker]

Most Semi auto's and Pumps will hold 6 with the plug removed. Most states will only allow you to have 3 in the gun and the gun must be plugged. With that in mind, why would you need 10? Moving targets are not going to stand there and let you miss 10 times. A bird sure ain't going to pause in mid flight and hover like a humming bird to let you shoot that many shots.

 

[McKie]

Some ammo company was selling home defense shells that were only about 2 inches long, you could get quite a few of those in the magazine. I wonder if the Benelli would cycle them tho. Anyone know where to get these?

 

[JMCCOYB]

oicw--you might want to review my posts in reply to your two prior questions on this board.

You may also want to go over to the Tactical board and review some of the discusson of just how many rounds in a tactical (or home defense) shotgun is "enough".

Don't want to be too helpfull here--"someone like me" JMCCOYB

 

[oicw]

The more rounds vs. less rounds debate is going on at:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.p ... adid=38726

I agree with the guys who favor more rounds. My benelli is going to be my home defense weapon so I want as many rounds in it as possible.

 

[Rick618]

More rounds or less rounds....... it comes down to what is practical. What looks cool and macho can be a hinderance when you actually have to defend yourself this includes a lot of the stuff that they sell as aftermarket add ons. True tactical gear has a place in the hands of professionals as they are trained in its use. For a novice the added extra weight and the awkward balance that a full mag extension has will be an issue in close quarters. Also, too many get caught up in a fire fight type expectation and this just isn't the case in most home defense situations.

I have an 8 round extension for my Benelli, the gun holds four on its own and then the mag extension holds an additional four, for a total of 8 rounds. I use this during the spring snow goose season and that's it, I wouldn't want it on the gun for home defense.

In home defense, the K.I.S.S. mentality needs to stay in the forefront. It is a situation that you hope never occurs but your defense needs to be something quick, simple, and effective.

 

[nicolisd]

learn hand-to-hand combat....lol

 

[oicw]

Is the 4 rd mag extention only for a M1 & M3? I've only seen a 2rd for a M4.

 

[oicw]

For those who load less in their shotguns, do you also load less or want less rounds in your revolvers and semiauto rifles and semiauto pistols?

 

[Kavall]

Load less. Yes! Handguns 7 rounds is sufficent of .45 ACP in my opinion. And 7 rounds of 9mm will do when am able to carry in concealment. 13 rounds is not typically needed it adds weight and makes the ergonomics of a gun more than I can handle. I have short fingers so single stack mags make better sense for me. I feel more confident with a thin gripped single stack than I do with a thick double. And if I carried a revolver a 5 round baby revolver would not make me worry as long as I could hit with it.

 

[Jambo]

Most Semi auto's and Pumps will hold 6 with the plug removed. Most states will only allow you to have 3 in the gun and the gun must be plugged. With that in mind, why would you need 10? Moving targets are not going to stand there and let you miss 10 times. A bird sure ain't going to pause in mid flight and hover like a humming bird to let you shoot that many shots.

I don't think you understand the concept of magazine extensions. It's not a matter of missing the same animal 9 times and still having one shot left, it's a matter of hitting it on the first or second shot and still having 8 or 9 rounds left in the gun. The extra ammo isn't used on the same dove or goose. It's used on the dove coming from the south and the three from the west that your buddy just missed because was busy reloading.

The concept of having a magazine extension is not having to reload as often.

Also, what semi's and what pumps can hold 6 in the magazine?

 

[oicw]

Read this reply at:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.p ... post484476

A guy named Zak Smith stated this:

Loading a shotgun is super-slow
One thing to consider is that it takes a heck of a long time to load rounds into a shotgun when compared to the load time for a semi-auto rifle or pistol.

For a pistol, it takes approximately 1.2 seconds to change mags (if you've practiced a bit).
For an AR-15, it takes a little bit more than that - maybe two seconds.

In those two weapons, you start off with between 9 (e.g. a 1911 with 8+1) and 31 rounds available, and reloading is fairly rare.

For a shotgun, to load a single shell takes about two seconds for someone of average ability. The best shotgun shooters in 3gun load faster than one shell per second. I think I currently at about 1.6 seconds per shell (load 3 at once). Fumbling a reload is much easier with shells vs. reloading a pistol magazine, and you have an opportunity to fumble each shell, not just per mag.

So it will take an average person 6-10 seconds to load four shotshells into a shotgun - assuming it hasn't been run dry - and they have the opportunity to fumble each of those four shells.

That is one important reason capacity is important in a shotgun.

In 3Gun, shotgun capacity is important because if you plan to load only as many as you need to shoot, and then shoot (and reload) to that plan, every round you can have in the gun at the start buzzer instead of loading later will knock a full 1-2 seconds off your time.

 

[BBStacker]

Most Semi auto's and Pumps will hold 6 with the plug removed. Most states will only allow you to have 3 in the gun and the gun must be plugged. With that in mind, why would you need 10? Moving targets are not going to stand there and let you miss 10 times. A bird sure ain't going to pause in mid flight and hover like a humming bird to let you shoot that many shots.

I don't think you understand the concept of magazine extensions. It's not a matter of missing the same animal 9 times and still having one shot left, it's a matter of hitting it on the first or second shot and still having 8 or 9 rounds left in the gun. The extra ammo isn't used on the same dove or goose. It's used on the dove coming from the south and the three from the west that your buddy just missed because was busy reloading.

The concept of having a magazine extension is not having to reload as often.

Also, what semi's and what pumps can hold 6 in the magazine?

I did not say that most pumps and semi's hold 6 in the magazine. I said most pumps amd semi's hold 6.

 

[Jeff23]

Well, I usually just think along hunting terms, but here goes anyway. If I owned a handgun, it wouldn't be for home defense. Never could hit much with 'em. For HD I have a regular old Remington 870 Express, no plug of course, with the replacement 18.5" short barrel sold by Mossberg. I also have an emergency tactical *plan*! My wife and I both know what our respective roles are in case of an intruder and we have practiced many times with many scenarios. I really think the plan will do in an intruder even better than the 870. People will do what they are trained to do, while intruders are usually improvising, and that, my friend, makes all the difference, as anyone who's ever been in combat will tell you. A good compromise for the discussion in this thread might be the side saddle /side rail ammo holders that mount on shotgun receivers and are becoming so popular. I was looking at one down at the local gunshop the other day (I had to take a bunch of crap from my n'eer-do-well friends, who hang around the gun and tackle shop giving people a hard time. They wanted to know why I couldn't hit a duck with three shots. However, I digress.) I may buy one of these, in case I fail to be able to defend myself after four rounds from a 12-ga shotgun. Actually, in the case of my own worthless butt, I think I'd deserve to die if that were the case. But my wife definitely deserves better. She's only wielding a telephone, after all . . .

Jeff23

 

[Guest]

I did not say that most pumps and semi's hold 6 in the magazine. I said most pumps amd semi's hold 6.

Well then your message was unclear. When you say that most pumps and autos will hold 6 rounds not everyone assumes that you're talking about 5 in the magazine and 1 in the chamber. I did not assume so because the discussion was about magazine capacity. "Most pumps and semi's will hold 6 rounds total" is less confusing. Don't take this message the wrong way, it isn't a flame. But you are right there are quit a few pumps and semi's that will hold 6 rounds total.

 

[JMCCOYB]

Parson me but.....duh, what is the question?

 

[Jeff23]

JMCCYOB--

The questioner wanted to know whether or not any of us were getting 10 or more rounds in our Benellis. I take it you're being ironic, since you wrote him an answer on page one :lol: My own thought, seriously, is that if I needed ten rounds in order to defend myself and then do a break contact drill for an escape, I would deserve to die. That's with my trusty short-barrel 12-ga 870 loaded with low-recoil #4 buck. Others may feel differently, of course. If all I had was a handgun, I would either throw it at the intruder or pistol whip him, thereby eliminating--or lessening--the chances of shooting myself.

Jeff "Rambo" 23