Shotgun Forum banner
1 - 12 of 12 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
141 Posts
Discussion Starter · #1 ·
It seems these were a power piston wad for hulls with a larger base wad than most hulls reloaded today.

Can they be used for more modern hulls or not?

I have about 1000 that someone gave me, I just want to see if I can use them up...or i should throw them away to make more space for other supplies.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
215 Posts
They were originally made for the All American REM/PETERs hull, but can also be used for paper Winchester, or 1 1/4 loads in STS/Gun Club hulls as well as AA hulls. They are the same length and capacity as the red AA wads.

Don't throw away, just send them to me. Richard ^o^
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
8 Posts
Hey Crow Bait: What is the overall length of the Remington W23694 wads. I have several hundred of them WITHOUT the original Remington bag, so I don't know what they really are. I found them at an estate sale with about 300 blue All-American hulls. My wads measure 36mm long.

Thanks, heathkerr

P.S. Remington has not been any help with this I.D.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
244 Posts
The 23694 wad later was designated the RPA-12. Old literature shows it intended for use in the All-American hull (whatever that is). The OAL is 1.410" and the shotcup is 0.785"
TerryS
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,627 Posts
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d115/captjeff/DSCF3136.jpg

Here is a drawing of the W23694.

Below it is a "post wad" which appears to be the same except a post is built into the center of the wad; post-wad was designed for 16 yard trap from a full choke barrel. Basically it is an early attempt at a spreader. I have a box of 1000 post wads that I may use for that purpose sometime.

From my investigations, the All-American hull was the last high basewad low-brass target hull that Remington made. All-American had a plastic basewad. Previous to that was the Rem. Plastic Target which differed in that it had a fibre basewad, but I believe it shared the same internal capacity and loading data.

I agree that Remington is of no help whatsoever when it comes to data for their reloading components.

@ Farmer Dick - Am I to understand you use the W23694 (aka RPA12) in modern Rem hulls or Win AA hulls with 1 1/4 oz shot? If so, do you use it as a direct replacement for WAA12R? I agree it is about the same size, but I have not gotten around to trying it.

Jeremiah
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
244 Posts
Here's a picture of the page of Remington wads (assuming I can figure out how to post a picture).

I also have a list of the old/new wad designations:

Remington Wad Designations

W 29922 = R 12L
W 29924 = R 12H
W 29926 = RP 12
W 29928 = SP 12
W 29930 = RXP 12
W 23694 = RPA 12
W 29932 = R 16
W 29934 = SP 16
W 29944 = SP 20
W 23678 = RP 20
W 29942 = RXP 20
W 23680 = SP 28
W 23668* = SP410
W 23670* = SP4103
* = shot container, not power piston wad

 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,014 Posts
I used up a bunch of those W23694 as 1 1/8 ounce loads in AA or Rem hulls by putting a little toliet paper under the shot to fill it up so it would crimp right. Worked just fine and added some nice color to shooting. Couple of sheets folded up and already in the wad while watching tv made it easy to load them normally when it came time to go to the loading bench.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,627 Posts
I had an epiphany today and realized that the W23694 (RPA12) and the W29928 (SP12) have the exact same cushion section. It appears Remington used the same tooling for the SP12 but added a slightly longer shot cup (1/8"). The RPA12 just became a very useful wad indeed.

Jeremiah
 
1 - 12 of 12 Posts
This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread. Please consider creating a new thread.
Top