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I am the new kid on the block so to speak, but I have a nagging question about
double barrels and O/U shotguns and automatic ejectors.

I question the idea of only offering guns with AUTOMATIC ejectors. Some of the older
guns were offered without automatic ejectors, I believe.

I personally do not like the spent shells jumping out when I open the action. I realize that
automatic ejectors can be defeated, but why are they not offered by the manufactures?

There are two issues that I find with them. 1. For the hunter, leaving plastic hulls in the environment, is in my opinion, not good. It was bad enough to see paper hulls lying in a corn field
or wheat field, but plastic hulls will not go away for a looooong time.

2. For the clay shooter, if they reload, kicking out hulls is counterproductive. I realize that there is a market for recycled hulls, but it just seems so simple to pluck the hull out of the barrel and put in your pouch or pocket.

Just my quirks, but I am interested in a discussion. Flame away if you must, but it is an honest question.
 

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Thank you for your replies. It is encouraging to see that I am not alone in this issue.
I no longer hunt but I find it annoying to see empty hulls in a field. It presents a bad
image of hunters per se. As was stated earlier, it also may affect YOUR access rights.

As far as the clay shooters go, I just think it would be easier to remove the hulls and place
them in the bucket, but if some prefer not to do so, I am good with that too.

I had the ejectors silenced on my CAS shotgun which is a Russian double barrel. For the job it does, it is just fine. My only other shotguns are field grade Browning 20 gauge SXS and an older
Remington 12 gauge 11-87. Not high end, but they serve my purposes. I have installed a
shell catcher on my semi auto, and I attempt to catch the spent 20's but it is a PITA in my opinion.

I would think that the manufacture would save some bucks by offering a lower end with extractors rather than ejectors. But I could be and probably am wrong on that score.

Fact is there is not a lot that can be done about the 11-87 other than the add on shell catcher, and I am not certain that I want to spend the money on the BSS for the little I shoot it. I sure am not qualified to do the change over myself. It would have to be done by a smith.

Since I do not reload 20 gauge I guess it is a moot point.
 

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BarryD said:
When you see lost of hulls in the dirt, they are generally not from break-action shooters...

The hulls I see generally have these things in common:

1. They're 12 Gauge, where 12 Gauge guns are the least appropriate for the birds.
2. They're Wal-Mart bulk packs, most often Winchester Universals.
3. I usually find several at a time, meaning someone has fired a lot of shots and probably didn't hit anything.
4. As likely as not, there will be fast food wrappers and other trash around the parking area.

These people "hunt" during the season that falls between the season when they leave broken bottles and piles of garbage at the lake, and the season when they leave broken bottles and piles of garbage at the sledding hill.

They don't represent the serious outdoor enthusiast of any stripe, though.
Alas, I feel that you are correct in that appraisal of the situation. The really down side is that it gives everybody that carries a gun or fishing rod into the field a bad name. We get painted with a broad brush. I have no idea or suggestions on how to fix the problem, so I suppose I will continue to pick up after these slobs, same as others.

Were I younger, another trip to the field for a brace of pheasants or perhaps a few Bob Whites with a nice 20 or 28 two barreled shotgun would be great, but I am afraid these old legs will not tolerate it.

Casonet, I will try to find one and take a look at it. I need another shotgun like I need another hole in the head, but it is about want, not about need I guess.
 

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Thankfully there are people that are motivated to do such things for the rest of us.
Sad that there are people so dense to not see this. Thank you for your efforts to
police such a place.

Being new to the forum, I just noticed that I am limited to 60,000 characters to a post.
I know I am a wendy fellow, but even I do not have that much to say.

I do appreciate the lines of a nice double gun, or even a well made semi auto. I appreciate this place to talk about them. Thank you all for the information that you have shared. I guess now I
am a tad more tolerant of the ejectors on my sxs.
 
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