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The mood has struck for this dedicated pumper to purchase an inexpensive side by side for upland birds, small game, and farm use. I was wondering if the problem of misaligned barrels is present in the guns from companies like Stoeger, Huglu, Baikal, etc. I would also consider a used gun, but I don't know where to look, though I've heard older side by sides can be had for cheap, as long as they're not collector peices of course.

MarlandS
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(9/21/02 1:01:53 am)
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I've never really heard of misalignment being a prevalent problem in modern shotguns, which isn't to say it doesn't happen occasionally..

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(9/21/02 1:49:06 am)
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Your main concern should be the quality of craftmanship used. Whether the barells are properly finished inside and out, whether the wood is of good quality and looks ok, whether the reciever is properly finished etc.
Most problems occur with the work of humans in the factory, rather than the general computer controlled machining.
Low wages do not atract good and loyal craftsmen.

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i've never ran into a prob with barrel alignment, but i have run into shaky recievers and that is just as bad, it's easy to tell probs like that, if there is any mis-alignment they are hard to load, ejectors or extractors don't work properly, and you'll notice that the firing pin isn't hitting center, you won't see this on newer models very often if you ever do, but it's not that uncommon for an older model that been well used

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When I look over a few at a time, there is usually one or two that feels better built, but I have no way of checking bore alignment at the counter. I was concerned becuuse the article about the Bounty Hunter mentioned that one barrel shot some inches over and down from the other at 10 yards. Imagine that multiplied out 2 to 4 times for hunting ranges. Scary thought to have a gun that doesn't shoot where its pointed.
 
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I recently purchased a new Verona 20 ga. O/U. I took it out dove hunting, and did fair with my top barrell choked IC, but couldn't hit a thing with my bottom barrell choked M. I patterened the gun, and found that the top barrell shot dead on, but that the bottom barrell centered 5" to 6" low at 30 yards. Any suggestions on correcting this problem?
 

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You can have off-center choke tubes made for the under barrel, but this can be expensive. My suggestion for a quick and easy fix is to use the more open choke in the under barrel and hold about 3" high on ALL shots. That way, you would be very close with either barrel since 3" difference seldom makes much difference in pattern placement.
 
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Thanks, I'll give that a try this weekend when I shoot trap. Not too scientific, but with some practice should work out.
 

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Hello - I need help sir ... i just bought a Baikal Mp153 i tested it on the board and it shots a whole 20 inches above the POA! no hits in a 15 inch circle from 20 yards ... i took it to a gunsmith... he did something to the gun ..... after that i see the front bead hidding behind the raised part of the rib at the reciever end....and the gun is still shooting above (if i take an aim of something at 10 yards the whole of the shot circle is still above the POA) Im in deep trouble sir plz help me out ...im here in Pakistan where we dont have any replacements or warrenties .... it took my 2 years saving to buy that gun which is of no use!

Plz help me out!
 

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Sounds like he bent the barrels a TON.

I'd start by looking for a new gun and a new gunsmith.

If both barrels hit together, but not where you look then look first at the stock fit. Move the POI with adjustments to the stock, not by bending the barrels.....
 

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faraz153 said:
Hello - I need help sir ... i just bought a Baikal Mp153 i tested it on the board and it shots a whole 20 inches above the POA! no hits in a 15 inch circle from 20 yards ... i took it to a gunsmith... he did something to the gun ..... after that i see the front bead hidding behind the raised part of the rib at the reciever end....and the gun is still shooting above (if i take an aim of something at 10 yards the whole of the shot circle is still above the POA) Im in deep trouble sir plz help me out ...im here in Pakistan where we dont have any replacements or warrenties .... it took my 2 years saving to buy that gun which is of no use!

Plz help me out!
I suggest that when shooting the gun, just hold about 15" to 20" below where you want the center of the pattern to hit. After shooting the gun this way a few times, you will quickly get used to holding below where you want the center of the pattern to hit.
 

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Hi Gang:

If your barrels are not hitting where they are supposed to, do what I did and contact:

Harry Loos
1226 Belmont Ave
Lincoln, Nebraska, 68521

402-435-6816

Send him your barrel(s) and tell him how much the p.o.i. is off and he will machine the barrel at an offset to correct the problem. The cost is $50.00 per hole.

He did an O/U for me and I could not be more satisfied!

Good Luck,

Franchi
 

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Thank u guys .... ill try what u ppl proposed ... and ill get u posted for the results .... Thanx Alot.
 
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