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Beretta 694 Barrel Imperfection Warranty?

10K views 90 replies 30 participants last post by  RandyWakeman  
#1 ·
Hello all,

I'm reaching out to what other people think about this small cavity that I noticed in the right locking lug hole. The small cavity is located on the left edge of the locking lug hole. I purchaced the firearm just a little over a month ago. I did notice the black dot but thought it was just dirt at the time. After a day at the range then cleaning I noticed the dot was actually a small cavity that leads into the locking lug hole. If you look close you can see the black paint that's above the edge of the locking lug hole and leads into the small cavity. I'm sure this will not effect the firearm from firing but I wanted to ask for thoughts on a warranty claim for this issue. Do you guys think Beretta will just fix the small cavity or will Beretta issue a new barrel as you can clearly see it was a manufacturer defect and quality control disregarded this issue. Looking forward to see what everybody thinks

Hope these pictures help to see what my concerns are

Thank you,
JR
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#2 ·
Hello all,

I'm reaching out to what other people think about this small cavity that I noticed in the right locking lug hole. The small cavity is located on the left edge of the locking lug hole. I purchaced the firearm just a little over a month ago. I did notice the black dot but thought it was just dirt at the time.
You'll never know unless you send the gun to Beretta. Then, you'll know that this is "commercially acceptable" and not covered under warranty, which is at Beretta's sole descretion. ("Sole Discretion means the right and power to decide a matter, which right may be exercised arbitrarily at any time and from time to time.")

BERETTA FIREARMS WARRANTY INFORMATION

The Manufacturer warrants that this firearm was manufactured free of defects in material or workmanship; and for a period of one (1) year after date of original purchase, the Manufacturer and/or its local official Distributor/s (as listed here) agree to correct any such defect in this firearm by repair or replacement (at their discretion and, if the firearm is to be replaced, with the same or a comparable quality firearm).

The Manufacturer does not warrant the wood (stock and forend), grips or metal finish with respect to finish, matching of pieces, dents, scratches, cut, dings, etc. which are or should be apparent to the purchaser when the product is purchased. It is the customer’s responsibility to inspect this particular product prior to purchase to ensure that it is free from defects or damage.
 
#16 ·
I understand it's on Berettas sole discretion and that cavity is something I should have inspected closer. I did however find another issue with the firearm. When I adjust the trigger to the closet setting the trigger hits the trigger. At the closest setting when fired the trigger gets stuck to where I have to push the trigger forward inorder for it to reset. I know this is definitely something that Beretta will have to fix as you can't just see this issue when inspecting your firearm. My issue with this is that this is a simple fix and Beretta doesn't even have a 694 trigger guard that I can purchace and fix myself. I hate to turn in the gun and it being gone for months and maybe years for these issues that they will just simply fix using jbweld and a new trigger guard. If I knew they would replace the barrel I'd definitely send it in but a gunssmith would have to make that decision and that would take months
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#4 ·
Most warranties say essentially the same thing, and are worthless pieces of paper merely because the warranties are not actionable. Further, there is no time limit on how long a 'repair' might take. If it takes years, so be it. The "small cavity" in the picture may be designated as "routine hardness testing" and purely cosmetic in nature.

There is no chance on a new barrel set here. None.
 
#6 · (Edited)
I agree that legally speaking the discretion refers to whether to repair or replace, one or the other. Not to do nothing at all despite an obvious defect. I would pursue it even to the extent of a lawsuit in small claims court. Randy is telling you how Beretta will respond. I don't disagree. But that need not be the end of the story. Another thing you can do is place a claim with your credit card company. That should come first if Beretta blows you off. I assume you did not pay cash. That will get you the desired result. The big card issuers stand up for you. After just a month you still have the right to challenge the charge. I realize that goes back on the merchant, not Beretta right off. But so what. Merchants slough off responsibility for gun problems onto the manufacturer, but the credit card angle keeps them involved.
 
#11 ·
Given the irregular shape, this appears to be some form of porosity defect in the mono-block casting/forging which makes me wonder if there are other metallurgical defects that you can't see. I would seek Beretta's guidance on what to do about it so, at least you'll be on record for having the problem from the factory should it fail later in life. As suggested, you may wish to start with Coles first because they are much easier to talk to live. I guess you don't expect much quality control from Beretta on their $4K+ shotguns and I am getting tired of the COVID excuses. Good luck.
 
#20 ·
Plug the hole, move the trigger a bit forward, go shoot the hell out of it. Life’s to short to fret these issues instead of
Do you require the trigger to be placed in the most rearward position?

Dremel tool?
Do you require the trigger to be placed in the most rearward position?

Dremel tool?
Do you require the trigger to be placed in the most rearward position?

Dremel tool?
It's slightly more comfortable in the most rearward setting but I can manage in the middle setting.
 
#38 ·
Triangle wood wedge to move the trigger guard down wo marring it, probably what the gunsmith will do. The pin hole, although not an issue with product performance, would bug me too every time I opened the action. You would see the JB weld spot fix every time you opened the action. I would send it to Coles and say as much explicitly. Good luck and don't wait, shooting season is upon us.
 
#39 ·
Trigger guards are soft metal and you can take the trigger guard out of the gun, put it in a vice and hit it with a rubber mallet to move it backwards. That’s probably what Cole’s will do. No idea what to do about the monobloc.
 
#49 · (Edited)
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693 (same action as 694) closeups. Nothing high end obviously. The pit would bother me for sure. Not saying that I wouldn't just shoot it anyway, but it's still lame.

Edit- The steel used on the mono-bloc, is very ductile and by nature is very capable of taking shock. That being said, the "pit" would not make the gun unsafe, as the recess bearing surface is probably in the magnitude of 10X "overkill" to hold the thing together. Still lame on the optics as an absolute minimum here.
 
#52 ·
The adjustable trigger has 3 groves to where the trigger screw lines up too. The goove furthest to the rear is the setting with the issue where the shoe hits the trigger guard. Unless I'm mistaken and a 694 only has 2 settings but that wouldn't make any sense to have an extra groove to set the trigger that doesn't work. Your non adjustable does look identical to my middle setting