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Can anyone help me price a 2000 Silver Pigeon 20ga/28ga combo? I'm trying to make a reasonable offer to a friend who wants to sell it. It's nowhere near 100% and definately could use a good cleaning. It's also missing the original case as well as many of the chokes.

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I guess I should be trying to figure out the model as well... The ribs are 1/4" wide and the engraving doesn't depict any game, etc... Does that make it a 686?

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I'm just guessing here - but I guess you are right, the lack of a game scene in the engraving means 686, not 687.

I recall that 686 combos were available in the mid 90's with a 28" 20 gauge barrel and a 26" 28 ***** barrel. That might be what your friend has. That is listed in the Blue Book at $775-1995 depending on condition, including the case and 5 choke tubes (I'm guessing 5 per gauge, but it doesn't say).

I guess your friend is pretty careless, right?
 

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Careless, sure... Messy divorces can do that.
Both barrel sets are 28" and the numbers on the 20 ga barrels do not match the receiver numbers, but the fit is right on. Hmmm, what should I offer him...?
 

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Both barrel sets are 28" and the numbers on the 20 ga barrels do not match the receiver numbers, but the fit is right on. Hmmm, what should I offer him...?
That's a horse of another color. I'd say it is worth about $10,000. BTW, I happen to have a set exactly like that, and I will sell it to you for the bargain price of only $8,000!



I bought the 28 gauge first, and then decided I wanted a 2-barrel set but I couldn't find a 20 gauge barrel, so I bought a 20 gauge gun and had the barrels fitted to the original receiver by a gunsmith. I still have the other receiver and buttstock laying unused in my gun safe.

It sounds like your friend (or a previous owner) did the same thing I did. That is called a "composite set" since it was made up from different guns without matching serial numbers.

The non-matching numbers might hurt its value a little. However, IMHO, the 28" barrels are more desirable than the 26" barrels, so I would put the value of the composite set at about the same as the set listed in the Blue Book, which was $775-1995 depending on condition.

The 28 gauge gun with matching numbers is in the book at $575-1600 including the case and choke tubes. The extra barrel has market value by itself. I'll give you $200 for it (with forearm) if it is not damaged. I could put it on my extra receiver and sell it as a complete gun.

Since I can't judge the condition of that gun, I can only suggest you pick a number out of the air and see if he will take it. Try $1,000. It should be a good deal at that price, unless it is badly damaged and worn.
 

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MrBen,

Your help is wonderful. I'm planning on taking the gun out for a "test drive" this weekend to see how well I can shoot it. A couple of rounds of skeet (one with each barrel set), and maybe a round or two of sporting clays. So far, I like the mount, though it's perhaps a bit tight.

Any thoughts on what I should check out on the gun or look for when shooting it?

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You can look for wear indicating a lot of use. You said it was "tight" and if you are referring to the way it breaks open, that is usually an indicator of a gun that has not been shot enough to break it in good.

Also look at the top lever with the gun closed (check both barrels). The lever should be to the right of center. If it is in the middle or to the left (with either barrel), the gun has been shot a lot and needs service. That is no reason to turn it down if the price is right, but it may be an excuse to talk the price down. The last time I had that kind of service done to a Beretta it only cost about $100 and it was as good as new (prices may have gone up since then).

Ask the guy where he got the barrel with the non-matching serial number, and (most importantly) if he had it fitted to the gun by a gunsmith. Often they will go on the gun and appear to fit OK, but if they are not properly fitted by a 'smith the result is faster wear.

Shoot doubles with the bottom barrel first (one red dot showing on the barrel selector) and with the top first (2 dots). Any failure to fire the second shot means some work is needed, but that only affects the value, it is not a fatal flaw. It is nothing that can't be fixed.

You said some choke tubes are missing. Factory flush tubes are cheap, and you can often find them on eBay, although the 28 ga ones are not common.

The lack of the original case is unfortunate, but not really important. It probably wouldn't hold both barrels, anyway. WalMart has cheap ones that will take both barrels and are strong enough. But again, the lack of choke tubes and case are reason for talking the price down.

Small wear spots in the bluing are easy to touch up. Other than that, it is hard for me to tell you how to evaluate the condition as far as dings and scratches are concerned. You do need to look for dents in the barrels. They can be fixed if they are small, but they affect the value.

Right now I can't think of what else to tell you. Good luck.
 
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