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YOu could order a sidewinder kit like me! How many shells do you need? I have a side saddle right now and thats enough extra shells for me. What are you going to use your gun for?
 

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Main purpose is for Home Defense.

I have a Remington Light Weight 870 in 20 gauge. I have recently learned there is not very many accessories for the light weight. I don't think the sidewinder is currently available for the Remington 870.

For practice I just started shooting PPC long gun at Chabot gun range, slugs only. Load 6 shells shoot 6, repeat, repeat, repeat at the longest stage. 60 slugs gets a little pricey but I want to learn how to use this pump gun for HD. I think I did OK for my first time, I got a 508 outa 600. Seems like its easier and faster for me to reload while I am kneeling down, but I don't know if that is tactically sound.

So currently I'll need to carry at the minimum 24 rounds for reloading during PPC Long Gun.

Hopefully move up to 3 gun for more practice. I don't know how many shells I'll need to carry for that.

I realize that its not a tactical, home defense situation but its a start for shooting fast, reloading, and gun control.

The forearm and angled chest holder looked like it might be the fastest, but I have no idea.

Dan
 

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I don't know what works for 3 gun games and competition, but for general quick reloading, as a right hander, the side saddle on the left of the reciever is the best spot since your left hand is right down there to reload shells from the underside already.

I didn't like the stock mounted shell holder location as much, but it is a reasonably convienient place to keep 6 more. you just can't get them out and reloaded as quickly.

The fully tactical aspect of this hobby ( and I mean hobby since even swat teams make do with less than some of what I see here) interests me less and I prefer a straight plain jane stock and such, but the velcro 6-pack reciever strips are something I might look into. this could even be a viable hunting gizmo, but usually one already has some kind of vest or pouch belt for ammo.

you can rip off an empty strip and slap another 6 pack right on the reciever since , short of speed loader tubes, the reciever side is the best spot IMO.
 

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looking at the link pics:

That is not as tactically sound as it could be. he should not load with his trigger hand. the bag of shells is ok, but he should put it on his left leg.

I guess it depends on how long and heavy your gun is.

come to think of it, may as well buy a $20 trap shooters bag and rip off the top of a box of shells and let it sit in the pocket. I bet you could strap on one of those full of ammo in the middle of the night faster than you could get the other gear together.
 

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I have never seen anyone load their pump shotgun with their non shooting hand.

My shot gun gets pretty muzzle heavy with the pentagon weapons light attached to the mag extension.

How do you load with non trigger hand?

Also how do you do tactical loading (throw a shell in ejection port and rack pump froward) with non trigger hand?

Is there a picture or video on this?

Thanks

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you can slam in a shell into the ejection port with your left hand from underneath cupping your palm so you don't drop it. basically slap the reciever with your fingers cupped around it and guide it in. sometimes it just flies right in. you need the short non-sporterized forgrip because wingmaster full forestock makes this harder. after the slap, your left is right at the front of the SG ready 2 pump.

if you put your right forearm over the stock (yes stock, pistol grippers) and keep your right hand near the trigger (sort of holding near the reciever or just the normal grip with finger near trigger), you can hold the weight. no way to do this with a pistol grip. the flip over loading would be best in that situation. even so, a right hader ought to load lefty so you have the stock end in your right hand at all times.

the foregrip is just inches away for the left hand to transition from shell loading to foregrip hold. I saw a demonstration of a shot while reloading. the inertia forced the shell in right away and bumped the left hand pretty much on the forestock pump for the next shot.

that is the way I was recently instructed... gun games may indeed have better methods since cardboard wont grab your gun away from you.

sorry no videos..
 

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Cool, where did you learn it?

I'm still trying to grasp the concept. I am really having a hard time trying to picture right forearm over the stock.

Thanks for the info.
 

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wheelgunner said:
Cool, where did you learn it?

I'm still trying to grasp the concept. I am really having a hard time trying to picture right forearm over the stock.

Thanks for the info.
do you have a gun to practice with?

1) hold SG with left hand horizontally
2) grab stock (non pistol grip style) in the normal spot with right hand, but do not let stock sit between body and forearm as normally it would.
3) twist wrist a bit and put forearm on top of stock creating a leverage which will hold the gun up easily. remove left arm as SG is now easily supported at arms length if needed.

holding with the wrist only is too hard unless your SG is sawed off.
 

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I always load my Shotgun with the left hand (non trigger hand)
Thats how they teach it in the Sheriffs academy.
You combat load the first round by dropping it into the port then
chamber it. You can then load the rest of the rounds into the tube while staying live and on target.
 
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