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Does anybody think there will ever be a bottom ejection (ambidextrous) auto shotgun?

I am a lefty and shoot a BPS because it is ambidextrous. I would love an auto someday. I know I could buy a left handed auto or even a right handed one. I have shot a lot of right handed autos and it hasn't bothered me. I'm just wondering if you think anyone will ever develop one. Is the engineering involved too complicated? Or just not a market for it?

The bottom ejection does not only make it ambidextrous but makes shell pick up easier.

I think when I am in the market for a new gun I will probably just get an OU. A bottom ejecting auto would definitely make me take pause though.

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Spacegold said:
What is it abour right side ejection port that doesn't work for lefties?
Nothing in general. If I were to buy an auto I would probably just buy right handed. If I had to say one thing though, I have not liked shells flying 10 feet or more away from the gun when shooting. Also if near someone they have shells flying at them.

I am not trying to say autos are bad in any way but I would love to see one that does not eject from the side.

Think it will happen?

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It looks like the 105 needs A LOT of refining and the Beretta may never come to fruition. Seeing that some gun makers are toying with that type of thing, it will be interesting to see what happens in the future.

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rybu0305 said:
Does anybody think there will ever be a bottom ejection (ambidextrous) auto shotgun?

I am a lefty and shoot a BPS because it is ambidextrous. I would love an auto someday. I know I could buy a left handed auto or even a right handed one. I have shot a lot of right handed autos and it hasn't bothered me. I'm just wondering if you think anyone will ever develop one. Is the engineering involved too complicated? Or just not a market for it?

The bottom ejection does not only make it ambidextrous but makes shell pick up easier.

I think when I am in the market for a new gun I will probably just get an OU. A bottom ejecting auto would definitely make me take pause though.

Thanks,
Ryan
Ok time to come out of your coma! Remington 105CTI check it out!
 

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All that tech talk about space age materials, but not one word about what the stock is made out of. For $1500 it better be some pretty fancy walnut.
 

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Spacegold said:
All that tech talk about space age materials, but not one word about what the stock is made out of. For $1500 it better be some pretty fancy walnut.
I'm not sure that's a justifiable statement. If you buy a Perazzi MX8 or MX2000 two barrel set for about $10,000, you get wood that's just barely above 2x4 grade. Does Perazzi have nice wood they can do for your gun? Yes. But it costs extra. Those space age materials you refer to with the 105 are why it costs what it does, along with the R&D costs of the new design and technologies. Not thing one to do with wood. :D
 

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It seems with all the problems of the remington CTI I have read about it would be better to create an auto loader with the magazine tube above the barrel to create a bottom ejection auto loader.

I know it sounds crazy but, think about it for a second. There are guns with extreme high ribs like single barrel guns a kin to the bt-99 or bt-100. Also, flipping the barrel and the magazine would put the center of punch lower which would translate into less muzzle rise on firing due to a more direct rearward force that is the same height as where the gun is shouldered instead of being above the comb like most traditional guns.

The more I think about it the more I want to try to build one.

If there was a design out there already that I would like to see as an auto loader that bottom ejects I would have to go with the Browning BPS (pump). If browning could convert that to an auto loader then it would be almost the same as the CTI's bottom load and eject concept.

I like my idea of flipping the gun more... it just seems the most practical and feesable. Change it to side load and bottom eject rather than side eject and bottom load. I would love to see Benelli try it.

The closest gun to what I am thinking is actually the Beretta UGB25
http://www.berettausa.com/product/spotl ... _ugb25.cfm
It has the lower barrel with the high rib and, it even has bottom ejection.

I am guessing you are looking for more than a 2 shot capacity? So, the Beretta isn't a gun for everyone looking for bottom ejection. And, at $3,000 it is a little pricey:
http://www.impactguns.com/store/beretta_ugb25.html
 

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aiken said:
If there was a design out there already that I would like to see as an auto loader that bottom ejects I would have to go with the Browning BPS (pump). If browning could convert that to an auto loader then it would be almost the same as the CTI's bottom load and eject concept.
I agree completely. I am happy with my BPS and most of they guys on this forum say they are tried and true. I would love to see browning do this.
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aiken said:
Also, flipping the barrel and the magazine would put the center of punch lower which would translate into less muzzle rise on firing due to a more direct rearward force that is the same height as where the gun is shouldered instead of being above the comb like most traditional guns.

The more I think about it the more I want to try to build one.
They make a aka style shotgun like your describing but you live in ca and can't own one...
 

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More California do-good socialism? I really like your idea, too, aiken. Lowering the center of recoil would make the second, and even the ridiculous third, shot quicker by reducing muzzle jump. You could make it top load, bottom eject. But can you see the shooting fraternity embracing it? Sorry, this business is far too deeply steeped in tradition.

By the way, I believe the old Ithaca M37 was a bottom shucker.
 
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