[crazyhair]

nice gun, guess its not available in North america thou

neither is the fusion high grade i dont think

 

[infanterene]

Those are nice! Very clean and elegant.

 

[WinM12]

The similar Browning Silver Hunter is available:

http://www.tex-pro.com/browning_shot_show__sales.htm

http://www.tex-pro.com/200507l.jpg

I saw one recently in Fort Worth. Browning fans should go nuts over it...

 

[dogknott]

NICE, but does that Phoenix have a touch of Winchester in it?

 

[Worc]

Nice catch dognott! The bolt on the Phoenix model looks like the bolt out of the Winchesrer SX2.

 

[crazyhair]

 

[dogknott]

i'm not a big browning fan, but I THINK I'M IN LOVE!!!! very nice looken . can you shoot it ??

 

[John3200]

It's probably more proper to say the Winchester SX2 has a little Browning in it. They are both owned by FN.

 

[ron73644]

Prettiest guns I ever saw. Wow! Yeah, if I had those I wouldn't be talking too much about my Mossberg 500 and NEF single shot.

 

[BlackGold]

Daddy likee !

 

[8PointDuck]

John, you might say Winchesters have alot of Browning in them . I think it might go the other way too..

 

[crazyhair]

so whats the deal with browning and winchester then?

were they once american companies with all guns being made in belguim?

or now belgium owns both companies?

or brownings were never american to begin with?

its all very confusing.

 

[WinM12]

so whats the deal with browning and winchester then?

were they once american companies with all guns being made in belguim?

or now belgium owns both companies?

or brownings were never american to begin with?

its all very confusing.

It IS very confusing, and although I'm not an expert, here's a brief synopsis:

John Browning was one of history's greatest firearms designers, but Browning was also one of the first companies to outsource production overseas - beginning in the early 1900s with their Auto 5. Brownings have been produced in many countries, including Belgium, Japan, and now Portugal. Not all of their guns have been their own designs (i.e. the Japanese Miruku imports).

Winchester was an American company for many years. In the past, they did import some guns from Japan (M101, M23, etc.). Winchester has changed hands several times, and are now owned by the same company that owns Browning - the Herstal Group in Belgium. Winchester licenses their name to guns produced in the US, Japan, and Portugal. The Winchester Super X2 is built on the same platform as the Browning Gold.

 

[Worc]

John M Browning also designed some Winchester models well before the where part of the same company. More of a coincidence than anything else.

 

[John3200]

I don't think John Browning ever really made guns as much as he simply designed them and then sold the designs to gun companies to make. Hence the 1911 pistol went to Colt, the model 11 shotgun to Remington several designs to Winchester and several designs to FN in Belgium. I'm sure other companies were involved as well. I'm not sure how FN ended up with the actual "Browning" name though. Someone here will probably fill us in.