Shotgun, rifle, handgun?…….. generally, guns bought as investments, other than personal enjoyment investing don’t go terribly far. JMO

 

I didn't specify what kind of gun. But in my head I was asking about shotguns. I personally don't believe in buying a gun and thinking it's gonna be worth more down the road. But I am quick to devalue a gun. If someone put there fanciest, priciest gun in my hands, it would be used to push thorns and branches out of my way grouse hunting. They are made to be used.

 

If you legitimately want a sound investment forget the gun idea and get stocks, CDs, or bonds.

 

Like he said, buy mutual funds.

Mutual fund generates cash flow in the form of dividends (usually quarterly) which are taxed at only 15%
You can sell a mutual fund in a millisecond with the click of a mouse with no transaction costs (no finding a sketchy buyer, shipping, FFL, or selling on consignment)
Nothing to store/insure in case of fire or theft
If you need money, you can sell some shares of your mutual fund--you cannot sell parts of the investment gun (well you can...)

 

Buy gold. The economy could go to heck at any time.

 

Could go?

 

Over the years I have bought lots of investment grade guns and held them and made money on every single one while also getting to enjoy the ownership. The two most important things to pay attention to are condition and authenticity and of course scarcity. It really doesn't matter what kind of gun it is. In the last few years, Ive seen Colt Pythons go for thousands of dollars. These are guns that sold for $250 back in the late 1960s. Do your research

 

edit I'm not looking for a gun as an investment, or as an object to "hold" money/ value. Just curious because I know some shooters do.

 

please take no offense, but if you are on the internet asking this, then you are no where near ready. Regarding firearms, “investing“ is a misnomer, it’s “speculating” . best of luck to you

 

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An investment gun is one that if you're lucky enough to get what you paid for it or 10 to 20% less. I've made some good money on some firearms, but I lost just as much on others so it all came out in the wash. And sometimes that meant, waiting several years for the timing to be right.

 

If you were to buy a gun as an investment, what would you buy? I'll make your choices easier by limiting make and model, to guns made in 2023.

Piotti, Francotti, a new Aya, a B-Rizzini, SO-6 Beretta, Bost.
They are all on my Bucket List.
Mike

 

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not when I submitted mine. As far as your ( clarified) question is concerned. There is a reasonable possibility that any of the higher end shotguns on the market in 2023 will appreciate in value to some extent. Just not to the level that I would expect out of a more traditional investment. JMHO

 

For me an investment gun is a well balanced gun that I can shoot thousands of rounds with minimal maintenance and break a lot of targets.

 

Guns are like toilet paper. They become worthless every day.

 

Then please explain why the prices increase with each new volume of the oft quoted bluebook of gun value.

 

If I was going to buy an investment shotgun, it would be a used high grade that someone had traded in. I see used K80's, Piotti's, Perazzi's and Berettas on the used market for 60-70 cents on the dollar of new. The bigger the dealer the better the selection of used high grade guns.
example;

K-80 Gold Bavaria Royale Parcours X - Clay Target Sports

Pre-Owned Krieghoff K-80 Gold Bavaria Royale 32 right handed Parcours X Engraved by Jana Schilling.

www.claytargetsports.com

 

Gentlemen,
I will relate to you what my Grandfather taught us about purchasing quality guns. His advise was to never purchase any kind of gun as an investment. Purchase your guns to use them and if they are quality guns they will increase in value, which really does not matter. Pass your quality guns down thru the family for generations, if they are quality guns, kept in pristine condition they will increase in value. Our family has never purchased guns as an investment of any kind. Although my Great grandfather invested in the gun making business heavily. Purchase your guns to hunt with, and as family protection.

all the best,

Pine Creek/Dave
L.C. Smith Man

 

I’m sure your post is just for fun. What stock would you buy? Both are guesses. Wish I’d have kept that 1969 Chevelle 396 SS I sold for peanuts.

 

It really is an interesting question and I've thought about that topic quite a bit. Not to hijack the thread, but it got me to reminiscing about asking my dad and his list of guns from the past "why didn't you keep that Model 12 28 gauge?", or "why didn't you keep the boxes?" (answer: I couldn't throw them away fast enough, I wanted to shoot it ).

I mean - let's face it... who really thought that the Winchester 9410 would bring the kind of money they do now?

 

I tried using the old " Investment " ploy on my wife when buying my last Gun .

Didn't go over well lol

 

This one;

Then I would, and do, put as much money as possible in my retirement portfolio.

 

I think the 'made in 2023' rule makes it tough. I guess i'd look for a gun engraved by a known talent who is nearing the end of their career. That would give you some exclusivity. On brand i dunno. McKay Brown?

 

Probably the only person to actually answer the OP's question. The "made in 2023" part does make it extremely difficult

 

Part of the joy of owning investment grade guns is that you get to enjoy them during your period of ownership. It’s hard to enjoy stocks and bonds while owning them. I’m not saying that guns should be your primary investment, but if you don’t really need the money and you can afford to tie some up in tangible assets , then I don’t see any harm in owning a few investment grade guns. I have a friend with a collection of over four thousand firearms. Some are quite valuable, others are not. He has plenty of money in other investments, so he can afford to tie up capital in guns. I asked him recently why he didn’t sell off a bunch. He told me that when you sell a gun, then all you have is money. You then spend the money and then you have nothing!

 

Purdy, Holland and Holland, but I think that buying a shotgun for an investment is about to yield the same financial rewards as buying Twitter. But I would much rather own a Purdy than Twitter! I could take it out on my brand new sprawling estate and shoot it!

 

I'm sure I have many guns that have doubled or tripled in value in the past 20 - 30 years.
So what? $100 @ 7% x 20 years = $400 in 30 years $800

 

I'm sure I have many guns that have doubled or tripled in value in the past 20 - 30 years.
So what? $100 @ 7% x 20 years = $400 in 30 years $800

Try real estate. 7% is crumbs.

 

Gun made in 2023 that you think will be worth more in the future. Maybe a special limited edition like the 100th anniversary Citori High Grade that is out now or maybe a Pheasants Forever or Ducks Unlimited gun of the year type thing. Something that a collector a few years down the road might want.
I recently bid on a framed duck stamp for my year of birth. It went for more than the cost of the duck stamp and frame when new.

 

Of course you are right, and gun investments are certainly not what I live on in retirement. Other revenue producing investments do that for me quite well. My point is that owning investment quality guns affords you the hands on use and enjoyment of that investment while at the same time appreciating in value. The hands on use and enjoyment are worth something, at least in my opinion, and while its nice to see an appreciation, in the long run, its really not a deal breaker for me. Today, I buy an $80,000 pickup and enjoy its use and 10 years from now its worth 10% of what I paid for it. A fine firearm may serve me the same way and may actually be worth more than I paid for it 10 years ago. Its called "choice" and each person decides how to spend/invest their money. At the end of the day, you can't take any of it with you.

 

My point is that owning investment quality guns affords you the hands on use and enjoyment of that investment while at the same time appreciating in value. The hands on use and enjoyment are worth something, at least in my opinion,

I agree with your points. "Investment quality guns" our typically not really investments but rather luxuries that maintain, perhaps even appreciate in value somewhat.

 

Sure wish I'd of bought a dozen Winchester 42's when they were 89.95. or Stevens 311 .410's at 99.99.

 

Guess you were just showing your ignorance at the time. Carry on I’m out

 

Casonet,
Your point is well taken, and even though our family has never purchased any gun as an investment opportunity our L.C. Smith guns, even our 00 Grade & Field Grade guns have increased in value thru the years, and we use them every year to hunt with. If a sportsman purchases a quality gun and takes care of it, this usually happens because the cost of new guns keep rising. To purchase a high quality gun today it is costing some serious money, choose wisely.

all the best,

Pine Creek/Dave
L.C. Smith Man

L.C. Smith #5 guns, the stuff dreams are made of, especially for a Grouse hunter.