[Guest]

I know this is a gun forum but I must post my complaint somewhere to make myself feel better. Last fall (2002) I decided I wanted to hunt, so I read up on what I would need to do to get a hunting licence and a firearms licence. The first hunter safety course (a requirement for a hunting licence) that I could be booked into was in Febuary so I booked it and it cost me 3 days and $160 (I got 100% on both tests). Than I needed to take a firearms safety course and pass two tests(both %100) which cost me $125 and two days. I than applied in july (my 18th b-day) for my PAL (position and aquisition licence) which cost $65. You need a PAL to buy ammo and guns. I have still not received my PAL (they said will be here by this friday). After that I have to pay$25 to transfer ownership after buying a gun and $25 to register it. So for a 18 year old to buy his first shotgun in Canada it costs:$400 plus the cost of the damn gun. What kind of free country do I live in?

 

[TPM]

You live in a semi-free country.

It is shocking to think of the regulations that have been imposed on us in Canada over the past thrity years alone. It seems that the current mentality is that we the citizens are stupid people who need our government to tell us how to live.

When the seat belt laws were first enacted, my Dad was a fierce opposer and so was I, even though I was young. Why? It is an unconstitutional law which invades and takes away a little of our personal freedom. Little by little, over the years we continue to lose our freedoms.

Safety is always the word bandied about in order to justify the new law, but it is just plain wrong. We need Canadians who will stand up and oppose foolish laws and it's great to hear from a younger person who sees the nonsense.

BTW, you forgot the costs which you now must incur in order to store your gun lawfully!

 

[fivemile]

Sorry for you guys in Canada. I love you country and love to visit it; but your gun laws are terrible. How did this happen?Did they put it on you little by little?

 

[Kanada]

i live in canada to. the hunter ed course cost me 50bux foir 3 days. my PAL course cost 50 bux(i challenged the test, didnt want handgun licence) and the pal cost 60 bux. and 25 to transfer and register my gun

 

[Guest]

TPM wher in Canada do you live and how dated are those prices?

 

[Guest]

Sorry TPM the last message was for Kanada

 

[Kanada]

im alberta, and i took my hunters ed 4 yrs ago and all those other prices are last couple of months. by the way if u want your PAL really quickly select the box that says u need it for employment(assumming u have ur handgun part to), or u can phone them and they will make it priority, got mine in 2 months

 

[Pneuman]

If I had more than 2 thumbs, they would all be pointing down right now.

I'm in Alberta too, and registry stinks. huge. i'm so mad i can barely type. grrrr....

2 billion dollars, and nothing accomplished except another chip in our freedom. I'm going to upgrade my possesion license to a aquisition one soon, but what a pain in the ***.

Pneuman

 

[Kanada]

pneuman where do you live in alberta?

 

[Guest]

You guys should think about starting a canadain nra.

It cost 50 bucks to bring a gun to canada and another 50 to borrow someones it discourges foreigners from coming to canada to hunt or shoot.

 

[Kanada]

we actually have the NFA, national firearms assoc.

 

[REDNECK]

THE GUN LAWS SUCK IN CANADA!!
I BELIVE WE HAVE TOO MANY BLEEDING HEART LIBERALS!
I WILL NEVER...NEVER REGESTER ALL OF MY GUNS!
THINK ABOUT THIS
REGESTRATION.....CONFISCATION
A LITTLE TOOO CLOSE FOR ME.!!
just an opinion.

 

[BlackDragon]

Well, the fees are ridiculous, but as for the seat-belt laws:

In Canada, don't you guys have tax funded healthcare for everyone? Well, I imagine the price to fit a seat-belt wearer with a neck brace for whiplash is alot less than reconstructive surgery on someone's face and a full-body cast because they forcefully exited out of their vehicle through the front glass. And auto accidents are a major or the highest (statistics anyone?) cause of injury in any industrial nation. Less cost, means less tax hikes or money spent on other, more useful things. So, from a utilitarian standpoint, making people wear seat belts is better for everyone, not just you.

Whether I actually believe what I just said is a mystery, just something to think about.

 

[Jeff23]

All I can think about is those vast wheat and cornfields, stretching off into the beautiful autumn light. Shame to think it's so hard to get to hunt them. Even one person can start a group, and a group can light a fire under your NFA (not that our NRA is perfect; it has its problems). Fight the good fight, and best of luck.

 

[Pneuman]

Hey Kanada, I'm in Calgary.
Pneuman

 

[Kanada]

im in calgary too , wut part of the city?

 

[Guest]

Blackdragon, that is exactly how the take your freedom, by rationalizing it away. Maybe it will save you a few bucks if you make everyone wear a seatbelt, but that doesn't mean you have the right to tell me I have to.

 

[Guest]

I was told coming back to WA on a BC ferry that to return with my SBE to hunt duck would require $75.00 registration of my gun at customs and the Canadian hunting license. (?$ - anybody know how much for an Amerikanski to buy one?). If this also requires a safety and firearm instruction, screw it. You see that by taxing the gun user out of the market, they have succeeded in their sterile socialist state. They probably don't need hunters money anyhoo given 50% tax brackets for many folks. :evil:

 

[BlackDragon]

Blackdragon, that is exactly how the take your freedom, by rationalizing it away. Maybe it will save you a few bucks if you make everyone wear a seatbelt, but that doesn't mean you have the right to tell me I have to.

I don't actually believe that seatbelts should be legally required. I was just playing devil's advocate.

 

[Petiey]

And if you think that Canada has heavy gun laws, be glad you're not in Australia another "free" country.