The guys in my squad are always commenting in the quality of the breaks I get with my Cyl .410 chokes. We are not shooting registered targets but it doesn't seem to be a handicap. I have skeet and Improved Cylinder chokes but chose to give myself the best advantage to break the target. It is worth it to try them all.
Choke for 410 Skeet
Finally found some 410 ammo so I'm going to shoot some skeet. I have 2 skeet chokes which I plan to use but I also have a cylinder and IC choke. Curious if others have different suggestions for chokes other than skeet. Is a cylinder better to get the widest pattern possible? Or is a tighter choke better?
I know skill level will dictate and this is only on the margin; more curious as to what others use than anything else.
I know skill level will dictate and this is only on the margin; more curious as to what others use than anything else.
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I spent a winter shooting 410 patterns (many) and counting the holes. I compared my numbers to what "Shotgun Ballistics For Windows" calculated as the optimum range for optimum patterns for 1/2 ounce of #9s. The range of optimum is very wide. That was a bit of a surprise. A bigger surprise was that everything I patterned produced optimum patterns.
And a optimum pattern is an optimum pattern, There are no better or worse optimum patterns.
I didn't pattern a cylinder in 410, so I can't say. But I venture in will be fine. I am very confident your other chokes will be good. I'd use SKEET.....just because that seems to make sense.
And a optimum pattern is an optimum pattern, There are no better or worse optimum patterns.
I didn't pattern a cylinder in 410, so I can't say. But I venture in will be fine. I am very confident your other chokes will be good. I'd use SKEET.....just because that seems to make sense.
I use the factory supplied skeet chokes. (725 sporting)
I use skeet chokes also. They deliver good breaks for me. My guess is if your cyl choke throws good patterns on paper,it would do fine.
No 410 pattern "looks good on paper".I use skeet chokes also. They deliver good breaks for me. My guess is if your cyl choke throws good patterns on paper,it would do fine.
Lol! You are right,but some do look bad!
Same here. No issue with the quality of the breaks or my scores.I use the factory supplied skeet chokes. (725 sporting)
Low bar , what works best for you ?
I don't get scientific and try to keep it simple. I have always defaulted to skeet in 12 and 20. For 28 I shoot cylinder and skeet because it didn't come with 2 skeet chokes. I shoot so well with it, I never felt the need to buy another skeet choke.
Bought a 410 barrel for my 28 g and took forever to find ammo. Havent yet shot 410 skeet. The gun came with a good set of chokes. As I mentioned, I will probably go with skeet/skeet, and was just curious as to what others use since I have options.
Bought a 410 barrel for my 28 g and took forever to find ammo. Havent yet shot 410 skeet. The gun came with a good set of chokes. As I mentioned, I will probably go with skeet/skeet, and was just curious as to what others use since I have options.
I use I/C & I/C for skeet with my .410 white satin but intend to get skeet chokes for it eventually
Here are a few of my .410 pattern numbers to give you an idea of the kind of performance you might get with #9 skeet loads and different choke constrictions.
Obviously, the only way to really know how your choke/load combo performs is to pattern it.
Good luck!
Patterning results @ 25 yards from a Yildiz SxS .410 with 28" barrels and factory flush choke tubes (patterns average of five, post-shot scribed circles, yardage taped muzzle to target, in-shell pellet count average of five, and true choke constriction from bore gauge).
.410 2 1/2" WINCHESTER AA TARGET LOAD
1/2 oz #9 lead (281 pellets) Max DE
RIGHT BARREL (ID .408”)
FULL choke (.023” constr.)
20" / pattern 189 (67%)
20-30" / pattern 68
30" / pattern 257 (91%)
IM choke (.017” constr.)
20" / pattern 190 (68%)
20-30" / pattern 66
30" / pattern 256 (91%)
MOD choke (.012” constr.)
20" / pattern 173 (62%)
20-30" / pattern 71
30" / pattern 244 (87%)
IC choke (.005” constr.)
20" / pattern 144 (51%)
20-30" / pattern 85
30" / pattern 229 (81%)
CYL choke (-.002” constr.)
20" / pattern 84 (30%)
20-30" / pattern 83
30" / pattern 167 (59%)
Obviously, the only way to really know how your choke/load combo performs is to pattern it.
Good luck!
Patterning results @ 25 yards from a Yildiz SxS .410 with 28" barrels and factory flush choke tubes (patterns average of five, post-shot scribed circles, yardage taped muzzle to target, in-shell pellet count average of five, and true choke constriction from bore gauge).
.410 2 1/2" WINCHESTER AA TARGET LOAD
1/2 oz #9 lead (281 pellets) Max DE
RIGHT BARREL (ID .408”)
FULL choke (.023” constr.)
20" / pattern 189 (67%)
20-30" / pattern 68
30" / pattern 257 (91%)
IM choke (.017” constr.)
20" / pattern 190 (68%)
20-30" / pattern 66
30" / pattern 256 (91%)
MOD choke (.012” constr.)
20" / pattern 173 (62%)
20-30" / pattern 71
30" / pattern 244 (87%)
IC choke (.005” constr.)
20" / pattern 144 (51%)
20-30" / pattern 85
30" / pattern 229 (81%)
CYL choke (-.002” constr.)
20" / pattern 84 (30%)
20-30" / pattern 83
30" / pattern 167 (59%)
Wow. It sounds like you can shoot your ammo at pattern boards. I would like to hear your results too.
I have a CZ OU fixed F/F. It breaks birds I hit. I would probably do better with a more open choke but I do pretty well. I doubt I’d break more with a larger gauge. A miss is a miss.
Joe Hunter - thank you for sharing that information! I'm trying to decide on a .410 o/u and whether I'll hold out for a gun with chokes or settle for a couple I see available right now with fixed chokes. That information helps a lot.Here are a few of my .410 pattern numbers to give you an idea of the kind of performance you might get with #9 skeet loads and different choke constrictions.
Obviously, the only way to really know how your choke/load combo performs is to pattern it.
.007Finally found some 410 ammo so I'm going to shoot some skeet. I have 2 skeet chokes which I plan to use but I also have a cylinder and IC choke. Curious if others have different suggestions for chokes other than skeet. Is a cylinder better to get the widest pattern possible? Or is a tighter choke better?
I know skill level will dictate and this is only on the margin; more curious as to what others use than anything else.
I use Skeet Improved chokes for 410 and 28 gauge. I've found that it provides a bit more range for long shots which is helpful when it gets windy. My club has a depression in front of some high berms and sometimes those wind currents can carry a target over 60 feet high. I've also found the 410 to be a lot of fun on our short 5 stand setup, the longest shot is about 40 yards and with these chokes a good centered hit will produce rather impressive breaks.
Last time out shooting the 410 it was skeet
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