Clays vs. Red Dot

Uly-

Thanks. I'm convinced I need to at least try it.

I've just started using Clays and it does seem to be a very good powder, as has already been mentioned here. No question about how clean burning the Clays powder is. I had been using 700-X before with dependable results but it did tend to leave a few powder flakes behind, after firing.
Using 17.2 gr of Clays/CB-1100 wad/W209 primer/ shot charge 7/8 ounce - for a skeet load. Nice soft shooting 12 ga. load.
I'm still getting some decent mileage out of my old style Win AA hulls using a 'just enough' crimp to keep the end flat and shot firm.

Skeetldoo.......if you like the Clays with 17.2 grains, try using the MEC 28 bushing (15.5 grains) with 7/8 ounce loads.

Couldn't find a recipe, so tried it and makes a great skeet load with even less recoil and saves another 2 grains per load. Just not sure how well it will work with inertia semi's.

I haven't chronographed them, but if it gets 1150+, I am thinking of dropping down another bushing.

And if anyone is really interested in a clean burning, good patterning target load try this one:

STS hulls
7/8 ounce magnum hard shot
16.5 grs. Titewad
WAA12L (gray) wad or its Claybuster clone
Rem STS or Win 209 primer

I load #8-1/2 or #8 shot mostly which makes the load excellent for skeet, good for non-handicap trap and many sporting clays presentations. If one had only a 12 gauge, it might even be good for doves and quail without tearing the little critters up. Although I shoot mostly with O/Us, the load does reliabley operate my 11-87.