I've had several, from Storm to Cabelas to plain old Walls, I now use a lined/hooded windbreaker, another windbreaker over that and when it gets really cold, a rubberized windbreaker over that. All are way cheaper than a good coat, and by far warmer/thinner. Thin enough I don't have to change LOP, so I guess I am saying to layer as need be or at least try it, windbreakers are cheap.