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We are excited to announce that we are live on our new forum platform!

It’s been a long time coming. Let’s face it. Sometimes older forum technology lags behind other parts of the internet. Although seeing the same format for a long time is comforting, the member experience shouldn’t include dealing with outdated, unsafe, slow software.

The transition to a new platform will never be 100% smooth but the days of dealing with out of date forum software are over. We have teams dedicated to building a world-class community for you. The development has been steady with regular software releases since May 2019. Asking members for feedback and coming up with ideas for improvement is what we want.

Speed and Reliability Are Key
No one should have to wait for information. This site has been built to be much faster and more reliable, period.

New Homepage Experience
Our algorithm will serve a personal customized feed based on your prior engagement with content on the site. If you’ve liked and or commented, or are following certain topics that are of interest to you, similar content will appear at the top of the homepage.

Search
We have introduced new search algorithms, powered by an industry-leading AI platform, to help you find information faster. We plan to roll out new features to continue improving search, and to power many additional areas of the forum.

Due to the volume of content, our search platform may take some time to complete indexing over the first few days after migrating. During this process, you may see a limited number of posts until indexing has been completed. We appreciate your patience.

Finding Your Way Around
We have made the design clean and simple to use. Near the upper right-hand corner of the community, you will see navigation icons.

The first icon is for what’s new on the site.

Clicking on it, by default, will take you to new unread posts. On that page, you can click on additional tabs as well, such as Popular, if you prefer to view active topics.

Clicking the list icon next to “NEW” will bring you to the full forum listing.

Clicking your avatar will give you a drop-down menu for all things related to your account.

You can also navigate more by clicking the 3 vertical dots.

Dark Mode
We have introduced Dark Mode. One of our favorite features allows you to access the site with a power-saving, and easier on the eyes dark mode. You can access it in the drop-down menu under the 3 vertical dots.

Save Bookmarks
Now you can save your favorite discussion threads and posts! Bookmarks are a handy way to remember and easily find great content or stuff you want to read later.

We also wanted to make it easier for new users to understand the lingo of forums. We have cleaned up various language to more commonly recognized phrases including:
  • Following - Thread subscriptions, and Watched are now known as Following
  • Conversations - Private Messages or PMs are now conversations and can be accessed from the user avatar drop-down in the main navigation
  • Showcase - Showcase is designed for users to "showcase" items/projects through the use of uploaded images, text descriptions and custom content categories. It’s a way to visually and textually provide detailed information on the content you wish to share. The showcase would be similar to a catalog, whereas the gallery would be like a photo album. It can be accessed from the drop-down menu with the 3 dots.
Take a tour and look around! Check out the Help section for some quick FAQs about the new platform.

Please keep all feedback, questions, concerns, requests for help, etc. regarding the new platform right here in this Feedback thread. This will help us make sure not to miss a request for help and also let us pass along your thoughts to our Product team. The Admins and I will be here to help along the way taking note of your comments.

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I will be here during your transition to the new platform, to help with any questions, help with navigation or how to do things, and to listen to your feedback so please don't hesitate to holler at me. I want to help. You can also check out our FAQs.

I do want to take a moment to introduce myself. My name is Cricket. When I was born, my father told his friends I was the ugliest baby he had ever seen, and that I sounded just like a cricket (I was born with the hiccups.) so yes, I have been Cricket for 59 years now. I live just outside of San Antonio, Texas. I spend most of my free time out in nature and exploring the back roads. During late autumn when it starts to finally cool down, I disappear from the world for a bit for camping trips and hiking.

Please don't be afraid to explore and test out things to see how they work on the site. :)

Although you can certainly use the "insert image" icon to upload an image to your post, you can also just drag and drop it to the text editor or even copy/paste it into there!

You can easily share videos just by adding the URL directly into the text editor!


Gif links from sites like giphy.com will display automatically just by adding the gif URL directly in the text editor. Try it!


I am a huge fan of the dark mode for the community. What is your favorite feature?

The new forum software is still a work in progress.

We will be seeing regular updates which are largely fueled by community feedback. While that doesn't mean we can action every request, it does mean we will be actively listening to the feedback and sharing it with the developers. We do ask that you keep any questions, thoughts, or feedback about the new forum software here in the Community Feedback thread to help us keep all the information together so we don't miss anything.

There is still some work going on behind the scene so you may notice some changes as we work.
  • It can take 24-48 hours for the site to finish indexing so it may take a bit for search results to return proper results, including showing all your threads/posts under your profile.
  • We will continue to clean up the order of the sections on the full forum listings page so you might see some stuff move around.
  • We are reviewing permissions and special permission sections so let us know if you notice any issues so we can look into them.
I have worked with our community support team for 6 years. I have worked with forums for closer to two decades. I won't always know the answers to your questions, but I can find someone who does, as needed. ;)

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How To Keep Your Favorite Forum Sections at the Top
My Followed Forums

For sections of the community that have special importance to you, go to the forum section and click "Follow Forum".

You will see a list of options open for your preferences. Add a checkmark to your preferred options. Click Follow at the bottom.

Your Followed Forums will display at the top of the full Forum Listing page.

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The new format surely looks fresher and, once I get used to it, will hopefully be better/easier.

Having said that, the first post shown just happened to be about fixing Master Class. Guess some things will never change... ;-)

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Love the dark mode as I do on several other forums.
 

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There's an old saying that "if it ain't broke, don't fix it'. It's unfortunate that the saying wasn't applied here.
Give it a chance. Right now, everything is new and strange to us. I've been using the old SGW format since 2003. It will take a while to get used to the new format and features, but I think that in due time, I'll get used to it and discover some features that the old site didn't have.
 

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this is the same platform tons of other forums are on, I actually liked the previous version but figure this was an eventuality.
 

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Great to have a new and improved platform here. Hopefully no more complaining about how to upload pix and videos. Plus, how many times have you heard : "I wish there was a like button" . Welp, you got it, and a whole lot more. Congrats to SGW going forward, it's an upgrade long overdue.......😁
 

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How To Find Subscribed Threads

Click on your avatar near the upper right-hand corner of the site and select “following” from the drop-down menu.

This will bring you to a page where you can choose to view followed discussions, forums, your discussions, and participated discussions.


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And, verticalscope ruins another forum.


I would suggest that the members here do a search of Verticalscope. They are the equivalent of Cerberus, the company who killed Remington. They go around buying (sometimes using very shady methods) up forums, then they dump ads all over the board and let volunteer mods do all the work while the ads make the forums so unuseable that the members leave. I've watched too many die on the vine as VS bleeds them dry.

For example, anyone familiar with Pirate 4x4....well, it's now "irate4x4" because after VS bought the old board, they ruined it, and the contributors all left and created a new board just to be rid of Verticalcope.

Hey man I hate marketing emails, so this is the only heads up I’ll send. Not sure if you've been on Pirate 4x4 lately but the syrup suckers that bought it went and put the final nail in its coffin this past May. They made it pretty clear it's their content now and all they care about is the ad space on 20yrs worth of our tech contributions. When they did ! near every member got irate then picked up and moved elsewhere.

irate4x4.com is the new community with that old community mentality


Verticalscope is a pox on forums, and is killing off the best boards one by one.

Hondaforeman.com and Hondaatvforums.com are two others that have, being generous, 10% of the traffic they did before VS did this "upgrade" which allows them to do better dataharvesting and collect more ad revenue.

Your personal data is also greatly at risk. VS doesn't care.
https://www.zdnet.com/article/hacke...reds-of-verticalscope-car-tech-sports-forums/
Exclusive: Hundreds of forums hacked, leaking millions of users' data

From another forum owners message to me (this guy has refused to sell his board, luckily)

Anyone who's been on any of those sites knows that they cripple them with EVERY POSSIBLE type of ad, popup, text ad links, sponsored posts in the middle of threads, etc. etc. etc. to the point that they're essentially unusable in order to FORCE people to pay for memberships. They're banking on the fact that there's so much information on the site that people will have no choice but to pony up and will accept the ones that leave after they cripple the site. So they're generating ad revenue out the ying-yang WHILE forcing millions of membership payments that make our memberships look puny.

I'm sure this will be deleted as soon as one of the admins sees it, and I'll be banned, which is fine. I have no interest in padding the pockets of people who go around buying up and killing off forums that were created and run by true enthusiasts, using some very shady "corporate raider" type tactics in doing so.

But as soon as I saw this format, I knew VS bought the board and had implemented their usual "improvements", and sure enough, the parent company is a shall company for VS.

Some of us who hate FB and other social media, and love the searchable layout of forums have gone and created new boards, and the mods and contributors have left the VS owned boards after seeing who they are and what they do. If anyone here wants to go that route I would nose around online to see what it takes. It doesn't cost much at all to set up and run a forum, and I only want to be a part of boards who are run by enthusiasts. The admins from VS can't tell you the difference between an Maverick 88 and a Purdy
 

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I like it so far and if I can add photos easier (and I am sure I can) it will be a pleasure.

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There's an old saying that "if it ain't broke, don't fix it'. It's unfortunate that the saying wasn't applied here.
I disagree; the old system needed to be brought up to date
 

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Can you please move the Over/Under and Semi-Auto Classifieds to the proper section.
 
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SO easy!
Thanks. Big improvement!(y)
I love how easy adding images is. You can copy/paste or drag/drop into the content area of your post.

If you prefer, you can use the image icon.

How To Upload Images To Posts

Start your post and normal and then click on the insert image icon.

It will pop up telling you to drag an image there or click. If you drag and drop it, you will see it show up in your post. If you click, it will allow you to navigate to where it is on your computer.

Then just click the image so it adds the file name for you, then click on open.

Finish adding any content and then simply post your reply.


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I'm used to this forum platform, so it won't be any different for me. But I really liked how the old SGW was. It was unique and everything was easy to use (except for posting pics), now its just a generic forum.

Hope it goes over well here, I know the change to this platform last week over at duck hunting chat drove a lot of regulars away and back to refuge forums.
 

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And, verticalscope ruins another forum.



...... It doesn't cost much at all to set up and run a forum, and I only want to be a part of boards who are run by enthusiasts. The admins from VS can't tell you the difference between an Maverick 88 and a Purdy
I will just say that I like the new forum format, it's also used on Trapshooters.com, which probably get more traffic. Much easier to post pics, etc.

Are you saying that with this new format, there will be all new Mods? That would really surprise me.

I think Curly, especially, has done a great job as Moderator, .....even if he did put me in time out a time or two.
 

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I like not having all the ads that took up so much of the screen
 
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