Atlas traps have a good reputation. I understand the Do-all trap in being imported from China. I was told by Scott at Atlas traps they are bringing out a model to compete with the Do-All trap. Instead of all stainless steel and aluminum; it will be steel with a heavy zink plating. It will probably be in the $650 range.

 

My experience with the Do-All Trap has been unsatisfactory. It is advertized as having a Lexan plate, but mine arrived with a steel plate. The throwing arm hits the top of the bird, and breaks it during the launching process. I emailed Do-All and the response I got back indicated they were making some design fixes for future models. They suggested I bend the aluminium arm, but I think there is a significant risk of breaking it. Essentially their response indicates to me that they do not have the expectation that their product should work right out of the box, and that the comsumer is the one who should re-engineer it to get it to work. It appears I will have to add spacers under the plate to raise it up, and use counter sunk bolts at the rear of the plate to allow the arm to pass. All parts and modifications come out of the consumer's pocket. I would not recommend either the machine nor the company based on their warranty service.

 

I was told by Scott at Atlas traps they are bringing out a model to compete with the Do-All trap. Instead of all stainless steel and aluminum; it will be steel with a heavy zink plating. It will probably be in the $650 range.

That's good news.
I was wanting to get into an electric for personal sporting practice,but the $800 price tag on the Atlas, and the lack of reviews on the Do-All had me kind of just sitting on my hands, perhaps that was a good thing, i'll be waitin for this new Atlas, sounds right up my alley.

 

Thanks for the response. Sounds like I need to drop back and punt on the Do-All.

I've shot over a Hunter's Point for the last twelve years at a hunting preserve in South Georgia. The hunt master gives each group a chance at a little warm-up on the trap as a precursor to quail hunting.

They've replaced parts but the base trap is the original. I bet that trap has thrown 100,000's of birds.

It is my understanding that Hunter's Point and Atlas has some type of relationship, same company, same plant, original owners divided the business, something.

Anyone know the deal?

Anyone not happy with the Atlas?

 

I've emailed back and forth with Do-All, and they have confirmed it's my problem to solve. I believe I can raise the plate so the launching arm is correctly located on the bird by adding a plywood backing plate underneath. I'll also have to change the bolts holding the plate, with the rear ones being countersunk. I can get the magazine to fit the birds by elongating the holes in the magazine top plate to allow some adjustment of the magazine vertical arms. I haven't had a chance to do any of this so, no, the machine is not fixed. I had hoped the machine would work out of the box, but that is not Do-All's expectation.

 

This is off topic, but I see that Rick S mentioned Hunter's Pointe. I hunt and shoot on the family farm on the West side of Washington, NC and have considered a trip to Hunter's but I wondered how well a newbie shooting a pump would be accepted there, especially since I miss way more than I hit. :roll: Are there any times that are especially good for me to go out and "get my feet wet" at a real shotgun range instead of trying to shoot clays out on the back 40.

 

This is off topic, but I see that Rick S mentioned Hunter's Pointe. I hunt and shoot on the family farm on the West side of Washington, NC and have considered a trip to Hunter's but I wondered how well a newbie shooting a pump would be accepted there, especially since I miss way more than I hit. :roll: Are there any times that are especially good for me to go out and "get my feet wet" at a real shotgun range instead of trying to shoot clays out on the back 40.

Give it a shot (pun intended). they should make you feel welcome regardless of what type gun you shoot.

Just don't go when there's a tournament going on. Any other time should be fine. Just tell them you're new at this an want to start shooting clay sports.

 

I've emailed back and forth with Do-All, and they have confirmed it's my problem to solve.

That's not very good customer service.
How does the throwing arm attach to the motor shaft?
Is there a set screw and detent sort of affair?
Do you have to attach the throwing arm to the motor,
or does it come pre-attached,
just wondering if the arm is vertically adjustable on the motor shaft,
that would seem easier to move than the plate.

 

I had been going back and forth on what to get as well. I held up a while back to see what the do-all was going to look like. When it finally came out, I pretty much decided, just by looking at the pictures I would go with the atlas. Then the money got spent on something else

But anyhow - many thanks for the info about the do-all. I would have been really unhappy to have bought one and then have to go through that mess. If it was me, I'd probably order another (new) one, and then report it as never received to the credit card company. It would serve them right.

 

I hate to be the odd man out on this one, but I bought a Do-All Aerial Assault and absolutly love it. I read these posts and decided to call Do-All before I bought, and I found their customer service to be great. They told me that they did have a re-design on the arm and the tray. The tray was originally going to be lexan, but they found it to be unsatisfactory, so they changed it to steel. I also asked about the bolts and washers, and they told me the bolts are not supposed to be counter sunk, that was in thier protype model, and with the steel tray, the washers are not needed. The arm is also what was causing the clays to break. They re-designed this after the first shipment and put a rubber strip down the arm with a dimple on the steel to make it unbendable, so that it will hit the clay in the perfect spot. They said anyone who has a lexan tray or first version arm, they will send them a brand new arm and tray. They told me these changes have already been made, and the traps in stores are the current ones. To be given all this information over the phone is not only very informative for me, but really shows the quality of customer service. I decided to buy one after talking to them, and sure enough the trap was the new one. This is the best trap I hae ever used. I shoot $5000 dollar auto traps on my father in laws farm, and will never use another one again. When they say it throws 100 yards they mean it. Quite, durable, and really powerful. Hope this helps you all like it helped me. I love this site and thanks for your posts.

Ben

 

Welcome!!! Tamaha from Stigler!! Glad your here!

 

I see where natchezzs has then for 499.00 ,free frieght and 2 flat of shells. Not bad if it worked.

 

Bdf35
Welcome to ShotgunWorld!

Nice to hear a good review on the Do-All electric.

Is the Do-All electric adjustable in anyway for the speed/distance it throws the bird?
Is the Atlas adjustable in this way.
For personal practice, it would really be nice to have some adjustability, as the clays you see on thesporting courses are typically going very slow to extremely fast,or somewhere inbetween,if you always practice at a bird with only one speed, you may not develop the skills needed to hit the real slow and real fast ones.

 

The Do-All is very adjustable for distance and speed. You can set it anywhere between 100 yards or more is some cases, all the way to 70 yards or so. It is so nice to be able to tone down the speed and distance for a new shooter, or speed it up for some experieced ones. The atlas trap and the new champion knock off do not throw more than 50 or 60 yards max. My buddy has both on his farm and believe me they lose their enjoyment in about 10 minutes when you realize they have no range or adjustments. Why spend that money when you can get twice the trap. Do-All informed me they have some really incredible accessories coming out for the Aerial Assault. One of these is an oscillating base, which if you look at any other base on the market, you could buy another Do-All Auto Trap for what they cost. $379.99-$400 +. Do-All told me their oscillating base will cost $175 or less and I was told it has multiple adjustments on it to suit every shooter. That is freaking awesome if you ask me. I absolutly love the trap and will never buy another automatic trap again, and just hearing what customer service told me, this one is only going to get better. I have had the greatest response from thier customer service. I can see that some things may be frusterating, but what more can you ask for than a company who will send you what you need, and if they can't fix it, they will replace it with a brand new unit. It does not really get better than that. The customer service informed me they have sold over 2000 units since Jan 1st and had less than a 1% service rate. I am very pleased and incredibly impressed with their help. Hope this helps you guys. Love the forum.

Thanks,

Ben

 

That's good info,
i've been vascilating between the Do-All and the Outers easybird autofeed.
It's nice to know the Do-all is adjustable, because if the unit will only throw one speed, you'll get used to that speed, and do well when the target is that speed, but cannot practice other target speeds.I'm not really worried about the exact mechanical integrity of teh thing, being a machinist by trade, i can pretty much fix or manufacture anything on the unit that isn't satisfactory, or work properly, as long as the basic electronics and motor etc are fairly reliable.
I really like the extension cord design,so you don't have to buy special cables,
i think i'm gonna go with the do-all
In looking at the picture i can see the mainspring is adjustable for tension, that's a real nice feature.
I have 2 other manual do-all throwers and have been happy with them

 

It pissess me off when trap manufs. get on here under a phony id and pump up their product like Bdf35. Who are you kidding??? It is only obvious that this is someone from Do-All. Out of all the post on all of these websites...this is the only one who is saying anything good about Do-All's auto trap.

After purchasing a Do-All and seeing what a piece it is...there is no way ANYONE could be happy with this trap. And don't BS me about good customer service! I have dealt with them/you recently and it has been a very bad experience.

My recommendation to all shooters, either pay a little more money for a good trap or buy a manual trap.

 

Thanks for the warning!

 

I kind of wondered if it was a pump job....after a phone call today I`d say it is. As with most things you get what you pay for...

 

I PM'd Bdf35 on Sunday 9:57 PM pacific time, asking where the Do-All was purchased,
no response yet :wink:

 

I hate to disapoint you all and let you know that I am happy with the product. So I guess what you are saying sportingclays10x is that everyone who gets on this forum and says something good must work for the manufacturer. That is some real detective work there my friend, but nice try. From what I have gathered, this forum is just for guys who like to ***** about everything, but how dare someone get in and say something nice, because they must work for the manuf. if they do. Wow, that is unbelievable. Nothing is ever good in life, it just all sucks right? Every trap company in the world could send you a free trap and you would still find something to whine about. I actually own an aerial assault and absolutly love it, so I guess I got what I paid for. And UltraMag, I bought mine at Cabelas. Ordered it online from Cabelas.com Feb. 17th at 6:27 PM, I hope that is okay, oh and sorry for not getting back to you in time. And I really do hope this helps you guys.

Thanks,

Ben

 

it just all sucks right?

Well........not all of it, but quite a bit of it does.

 

I called today and spoke with Ben at Do all. They admitted problems and have a new generation arm out now. Also admitted some wiring problems. They sure sounded sincere and nice. I`m very undecided. I may spring for a atlas..better safe than sorry. I have gotten good service from thier(do all) manual traps and once had a breakage and was treated right though.

 

customer service informed me they have sold over 2000 units since Jan 1st and had less than a 1% service rate.

From what others are saying this is probably because they're telling most people its their problem. Every company in the world has GREAT customer service while your thinking about buying. Its their customer service when something breaks that counts. I don't own a do all, and probably wont.

 

Well, i got one of the Do-All's on the way,
special thanks to cbxchris for pointing me toward
natchez, i would have never looked there, that free
shippin + 2 cases of ammo is a swingin deal.
They told me they have over 450 of the units in stock :shock:
I'll be posting a review after a couple/few weeks.
The price + the adjustable mainspring is what really sold me,
i wanted a trap i could adjust the bird speed on to practice sporting presentations, i've seen sporting targets from barely stayin in the air, to a streak.

 

I bought the do-all aerial assault machine from Cabelas a month ago. I had to tinker around with it from the beginning to get it to not break clays and to feed correctly. I got it going on a roll and it threw about 20 clays perfectly. Then it went to breaking them off and on. Then it stopped altogether and I couldn't get the arm to move at all. It was frozen. Luckily, I bought it at Cabelas and they were super nice about exchanging it for the Atlas 50. They sent UPS to pick up the do-all to return free of charge. I am glad some people are getting good results with this machine, however, my advice would be to buy it at Cabelas so you can return it if it gives you grief. It seems like the Atlas 50 is more of a proven product that people generally like, and its not much more money, so I am going to try that one. Just my .02!