[Budd Lake]

I'm thinking about getting a cheepo SXS 410 for my daughter (well maybe I'll let her use it :lol: )

Which of these would you waste $350 on?

 

[jlptexashunter]

I'm wasting it on a Baikal Youth 410 for my daughters.
GordonSetter has finally beat me into submission.
There Gordon, it's out in the open, I'm out of the Baikal closet, I may need a shower.

 

[Fattire75]

Get her the Baikal but in a 20 ga, the 410 and the 20 way the same. Savage is making a SXS that is made by Baikal I think not sure built in Russia in the same town. but seems a little more refind plus comes with chokes approved for steel and you can always send it back to Savage if you have a problem. good luck

I have heard more poor things on the Stoeger O/U and SXS even on the Stoeger forum board than on the Baikal.

I think one of those savage SxS might have to be a new toy.

 

[GordonSetter]

jlptexashunter I kept your secret for so long I thought I would burst! Hey, I look forward to your review after you end up really liking the gun.

 

[cordite]

The stoeger seems to be bulkier. Definitely none-romantic

 

[greyghost]

I would get her my favorite el-cheapo feild gun the Stoeger Uplander Special in 28 gauge.Less recoil than the 20 without the performance limitations of the 410. I am not sure if the Russians are making a 28 if so I think you ought to check that out as well.However the 28 gauge is my fave.I wouldn't sneeze at a 20 gauge in an auto but IMO the 28 is the better choice in a double.
Mike

 

[GSPatton]

I have a stoeger uplander 12ga. and I love it it is rugged and reliable I have shot everything from quail to geese with it and I couldn't tell you how many rounds of sporting clays all with no malfunction even in those cold january duck blinds.Is it pretty? NO but its a work horse.
On the baikal I have never seen or shot one so I can't comment on them.

 

[Budd Lake]

I would get her my favorite el-cheapo feild gun the Stoeger Uplander Special in 28 gauge.Less recoil than the 20 without the performance limitations of the 410. I am not sure if the Russians are making a 28 if so I think you ought to check that out as well.However the 28 gauge is my fave.I wouldn't sneeze at a 20 gauge in an auto but IMO the 28 is the better choice in a double.
Mike

I have a 28 gauge Ruger Red Label that I let her shoot and she still made a fuss about the kick.

I was out looking at both the Uplander and the Baikal the other night. Neither gun is going to win any beauty contests. The Uplander seems a little sturdier to me but in a 410 that won't really matter. IF I get one of these I'll report back.

Thanks for the replies.

Frank

 

[GordonSetter]

Since it was brought up: The Baikal IZH43 HUNTING SxS comes in the following gauges, 12, 16, 20, 28, .410. The problem I see with the 28 is it has fixed chokes and expencive shells. You will find the same issue with a .410 however. IMHO a child should start on a 12ga with light loads or a 20ga. The .410 is a little recoil gun, but it is hard as heck for a beginner to hit anything with a .410, heck it's hard for anyone who isn't used to it. Just my thoughts on the matter. Oh and I would not say any of these guns would be a waste of $350. Look at it this way:
A new Gun: $299
A box of shell: $5
You get to help your daughter fuel a love for shotgun sports: priceless

 

[Fattire75]

If she is flinching at the reciol get her a franchi 620 auto 20 ga.

not kick at all and good access to amo.

To keep it safe just hand her one shell at a time.

 

[RCDinsmore]

As a suggestion, you might try a Rem 1100 which you could get for about the same price and cut down the stock. The semi should decrease the felt recoil as compared the SxS.

Question: Why did you chose the SxS as opposed to an O/U? Just asking, since I was considering an O/U in 20 ***** for my next purchase...

 

[GSPatton]

I shoot a SXS because if God wanted me to shoot an O/U he would have put my eyes like this : instead of like this .. LOL

 

[clayshooter25/25]

My choice would be the stoeger but that's just my opinion.

 

[Budd Lake]

Question: Why did you chose the SxS as opposed to an O/U? Just asking, since I was considering an O/U in 20 ***** for my next purchase...

Personal choice I guess. I currently own 3 O/U's in 12, 20, and 28 gauge. The older I get the more attractive SXS's are to me. I bought a used Beretta Silver Hawk SXS 20 gauge from a friend this past winter for $400 8) . It's had the stock shortened and re-lengthened (nice job adding a nearly identical piece of wood), and the chokes were opened up. It's still a beautiful gun despite the stock and it's deadly on pheasants.

I guess it's part nostalgia. I like the look of the SXS. They are supposed to be the best balanced of all shotgun types. Unless I get a deal on another shotgun that is too sweet to pass up, from here on out all the shotguns I buy will be SXS. I only wish more American gun makers will get back on board with this. If the Ruger Gold Label (I really want one of these ) takes off you may see the rest of the manufactures come up with something.