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Revonoc Shotgun

Can you tell me the actual maker of an old single-barrelled shotgun which appears to be an Iver Johnson Champion but is marked only Revonoc?

Answer: Your tentative identification of the gun as an Iver Johnson Champion is most probably correct. A list of Champions made by I.J. under private brand for large hardware dealers and distributors was recently given us by the manufacturer, and it included Revonoc (Conover spelled backwards) as being made for Richards & Conover of Kansas City, Mo.

In the early 1900s and before, many such private-branded guns were made by many factories. The "private" brand was not always "private" in that more than one dealer/distributor may have used it and often more than one manufacturer may have so-marked guns. In your case, however, the evidence certainly suggests the Iver Johnson/Richards & Conover connection.

The complete Champion list, as supplied by I.J., is reproduced herewith for the many other members who surely have some of these interesting old shotguns -- P.D. [Probably Pete Dickey]

Blackfield - Hibbard, Spencer, Bartlett & Co., Chicago, IL
Black Imp K-S-Co - Keith-Simmons Co., Nashville, TN
Burack - Burhans & Black, Inc., Syracuse, NY
T. Barker - Baker, hamilton, & Pacific Co., San Francisco, CA
Challenger - Geo. Worthington Co., Cleveland, OH
Diamond Arms Co. - Shapleigh Arms Co., St. Louis, MO
Eastern Arms Co. - Sears, Roebuck, & Co., Chicago, IL
Famous - Hirsch Merc. Co., Los Angeles, CA
Falcon - National lead Co., San Francisco, CA
Hermitage K-S-Co. - Keith-Simmons Co., Nashville, TN
Ideal - Charles William Stores, Brooklyn, NY
King Nitro - Shapleigh Arms Co., St. Louis, MO
Marshwood - Charles William Stores, Brooklyn, NY
Marswells - Marshall-Wells Co., Duluth, MN
Monitor - Paxton & Gallagher Co., Omaha, NE
Newport - Hibbard, Spencer, Bartlett & Co., Chicago, IL
Olympic Arms Co. - Morley Bros., Saginaw, MI
Ranger - T. Eaton Co., Canada
Revonoc - Richards & Conover, Kansas City, MO
Scout - Frankfurth Hdwe. Co., Milwaukee, WI
Sioux - Larson hdwe. Co., Sioux Falls, SD
Triumph - Montgomery Ward & Co., Chicago, IL
True Blue - Shapleigh Arms Co., St. Louis, MO
Volunteer Arms Co. - Belknap Hdwe. & Mfg. Co., Louisville, KY
Western Field - Montgomery Ward & Co., Chicago, IL
Witte Special - Witte Hdwe. Co., St. Louis, MO
XLCR - W. Bingham Co., Cleveland, OH
 

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(Note: The following is from Remington's website)

Can you help me identify my older Remington firearm?
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Yes, we will be happy to assist you with your older Remington firearm. This is the information that we need:

*Is it a rifle or a shotgun?
*What is the action type, rolling block, slide or pump action, autoloading, bolt action, or lever action?
*Can you determine the caliber or gauge?
*What are the patent dates on the gun?
*What are the exact markings referring to Remington?

Please provide us with this information along with a brief description of the gun and we will furnish to you the information that we have available. You can send this information to the following:

Remington Arms Co., Inc.
PO Box 700
Madison, NC 27025
Fax : 336-548-7801
[email protected]
or call our historians at 1-800-243-9700, Mon-Fri 9am-5pm EST.

You may also be able to identify your firearm on our Firearms Model History page.
 

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I have a Montgomery Ward, Western Field-Deluxe SxS 16 Ga and the barrels are from breach to end 30 inches. It has the "bone finish" with roll stamped pointing setter on each sde.
Double trigger, pistol grip w/plastic grip end cap.

Center rib has gold mid bead and ivory round end bead

Serial # 15XXX marked stamped. Barrells have barely legible stamps of LLH and the right barrell has a "2" stamped under the breach and the left barrell a "4"

Wood is in good shape with original finish and the "checkering" is un worn.

Gun functions perfectly - I am just not much of a SxS shooter.

I was raised around Monkey Wards and Western Field in Oklahoma.

Can you give some history of the gun, what chokes it has and value? Thanks.
 

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Jim, you ought to post your question as a new thread under the Gun ID and Value section. More people will see it that way.

In the meantime, here is some info about the manufacturer. http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20belge/ar ... k%20gb.htm

You will need to provide a lot more info about the gun before anyone can answer your questions. The company made a lot of different guns over a long time period, and values can vary widely.

By the way, welcome to Shotgunworld.
 

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I couldn't find that name either. There may be 2 reasons for that.

1. I suspect you have some part or parts of the name spelled wrong. For example, I think it is Marcheno (a city in Italy), not Marchano, and Armi, not Aormi. Something looks funny about the main name of "CERU'CHE" - I don't remember seeing apostrophies in Italian names before. Search engines are stupid - they only search for what you tell them, and if you tell them wrong they won't correct your error. Double-check and try again. Try your search without the Armi (Aormi?) and without the Marcheno.

2. There have been thousands of small gunmaking companies in that part of Italy, and sometimes you come across a gun by one that simply cannot be identified.

The next time you post about this gun, please put it in a new thread under the ID & Value section, not as part of the FAQ thread.
 

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i just got an old nr daviv sxs. on the gun it says nr davis and sons ajax davis warner arm corp norwich conn usa. when i open the the gun it has a # f4406. can you tell me anything about this gun. where can i get a manual, i dont know how to take it apart. thanks
 

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I recently inherited a Argentine Modelo 1909 Mauser rifle, produced by DWM-Berlin. It is 30.06 caliber and is in perfect condition. It has the Argentine crest on the ring of the rifle. Could anyone tell me what the value is of this gun? Is it collectible? Thanks, Tony.
 

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hi i have a biakal made in russia it was the first shot gun baikal produced it is a special eddition made hand made there was only 1000 made it is in 100%goodcondition and it fully engraved do you no the model of this gun and i also want to sell it how much to you think it is worth??? the only number i have for the gun is n-760247 if that is any help thank you
 

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can anyone tell me how much a winchester model 1906 22. cal short long, long rifle pump is worth or a remington model 12-C 22cal long short, long rifle pump with a octagon barel both arnt re blued

if anyone could tell me it would be well appriciated
 

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If your looking for information on Ferlach or Austrian made shotguns or rifles you might want to check out: www.itishooting.com There is some information there of the guns. I understand he does research on the guns and can supply a value as well.
 
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