[shotgun red 52]

Red dot and Federal papers { trap shooters cologne}

 

[casonet]

A couple of years ago I picked up over 6000 once fired Federal paper 12 ga hulls. I paid 2 cents each. I kept a few hundred for myself and sold the rest to a trap shooting buddy who won’t load anything else. He swears that the paper hulls are “softer shooting”. I don’t know about that, but he is very happy with them

 

[TheRealScubaSteve]

That odor “smell” that we all are referring to is the paraffin in the paper that gets hot and released a vapor

Thanks, I didn't realize they were still made. I'll have to pick up a box to see what all the fuss smell is about.

 

[2ESRGR8]

the brass on them takes sizing super easy too.
i got shheeze 2800-3-K papers loaded right now with the old 12-C1 wad and green-dot.
i sort of hoard them since i got no more wads and i don't really want to use anything else in them.

The old 12-C1, Is that the two piece wad?

 

[federal]

I just picked up 4 boxes at rural king for $14 ea. would have bought more but thats all they had.

 

[Sherrard]

They are pretty nice, I wish they were more waxy though. They swell pretty bad in the duck blind, and I ended up going back to reloading plastic. Maybe the new ones will hold up better.

I wonder if anyone has ever sprayed the exteriors of them with water repellent, like Nikwax, scotchgard, or ReviveX. Never thought of trying that until now.

You can put them in the oven at 150 degrees (my wife's oven is a measured 145 degrees on the "Warm" setting) to redistribute the wax and take the swelling out of the hulls. I tried it with 75 once-fired Federal hulls last week, leaving them in the oven for an hour and a half, and it totally removed the swelling. I was surprised that there was little to no odor when doing this.

 

[df]

I load a few papers, mostly 16 ga. Back in the mid/late 1960s as a kid with a Lee tool loader, I loaded 100s and there was plenty of pin holes in the paper near the brass. Some of those hulls were loaded too many times.

 

[dogchaser37]

You can put them in the oven at 150 degrees (my wife's oven is a measured 145 degrees on the "Warm" setting) to redistribute the wax and take the swelling out of the hulls. I tried it with 75 once-fired Federal hulls last week, leaving them in the oven for an hour and a half, and it totally removed the swelling. I was surprised that there was little to no odor when doing this.

Or you can use one of these hull conditioners:

 

[Hal4son]

I hear this over and over and over from people, but I've never shot them. Do they smell like burning paper? I think I have a handful of 16 ga papers from my grandfather. Not sure if they're reloads or not.

"Try a box. You'll like it..." - Recovering Hull Huffer

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[dogchaser37]

Some things just don't translate to the written word. It's like perfume and pretty women.

Without the heartache!!

 

[Hal4son]

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[fiver]

The old 12-C1, Is that the two piece wad?

yeah, they had a dark reddish maroon or almost brown gas seal on the bottom depending on who dumped the coloring in that day.

 

[cdb1097]

I wish threads like this were never started, I just ordered 30 boxes of them.

cdb

 

[JNW]

I used to build pheasant loads in Federal papers and shoot wild Dakota pheasants with them out of an L. C. Smith. Good times. Good times.

 

[dogchaser37]

I wish threads like this were never started, I just ordered 30 boxes of them. View attachment 66296


cdb

Mission accomplished.........besides its a lot more fun than.......Can I substitute Cheddite primers for WInchester primers?!! Hack, gag close the lid on the laptop!!

 

[cdb1097]

Mission accomplished.........besides its a lot more fun than.......Can I substitute Cheddite primers for WInchester primers?!! Hack, gag close the lid on the laptop!!

At least I got free shipping


cdb

 

[2ESRGR8]

yeah, they had a dark reddish maroon or almost brown gas seal on the bottom depending on who dumped the coloring in that day.

The ones I have are pretty clear or maybe a better description is colorless.
Same thing as the maroon ones?

 

[dogchaser37]

Nah, those aren't the original 12C1's. Similar but the overpowder gas seal is tapered up towards the shot cup not parallel and no ribs in the shotcup.

Here's a black & white photo from the Lyman 4th.

 

[11B40]

I load the Federal paper with both BP and Bullseye depending on how old my SxS is. I even got WWII 12g paper issued to me when I was walking point for my pump in 68.

 

[howa9700]

Attempted to load some more Federal paper hulls today. The load worked well as far as stack height, crimp, etc, but kept having malfunctions. Now and then a hull would not drop down into sizer, going down just far enough to screw up sequence of primer seating, powder and shot drops. The other problem was the wad guide would snag on the hull edge, causing it to collapse down before the wad could be inserted. Between the two malfunctions.......and sorting it out with getting powder and shot drops back into sequence (after having to clean up numerous spills), I began thinking I'm not cut out to run a progressive loader.

Had been thinking these were once fired hulls, but that may not be the case. Some hulls had spent primers protruding a bit......far enough they would not pass into the sizer/deprimer, and edges somewhat frayed. The cone shaped expander on the depriming pin arm does not clean them up as well as the spreader on my Texan does. Could use it but do not have a cone shaped crimp starter for it and the 6 point starter does a poor job on them.

All things considered, I may be forced to give up on the whole lot of them. A good sized trash bag full.