OK, I'll take the other road. I have a set of 4 for 12 to 20 and 12 to 28. YES, they do work. They work just fine for skeet. I bought mine from a couple of guys at the club who were disappointed with them and I got them cheap, still got them. Only two beefs, one is sometimes you get a off sounding report...but I sometimes get that when a wad gets cocked during re-loading. The other is they are very nasty, your hands get burnt powder all over them, nasty! OK, here's a third beef, you have to poke out the hulls with a rod. For 40 bucks would I do it again, heck yeah! It got me to shooting 3 gages instaed of just the 12 and then I really got the bug, broke down and bought a tubed set. It's all about fun and they are OK to play with...just don't let anyone see you doing it!!