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·i'm wanting to purchase a beretta 391 urika for trap & skeet. i don't know which model i should get. i can't afford all 3. any suggestions?
or is there another gun better?
or is there another gun better?
good trap/skeet gun
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May I suggest something? Go to the Beretta website and look at the info on all their models. For a target gun-and this is just my opinion-consider those models which have the target style ribs and the parallel comb stocks. For trap and skeet specifically most of us end up using this "higher" rib as it allows us to watch the target in flight. If you go with a flat rib...or what some would consider to be a hunting style rib...you may find that you have to cover the target with either the bead or the end of the bbl before firing. The parallel comb allows you to place your head forward or back on the comb without it changing the sight picture and, thus, the point of impact. My only problem with using such a style rib is that when I switch back to a hunting gun with a flat rib I shoot under everything until I get used to it again. The parallel comb will also reduce the amount of recoil you feel in your cheek. A gun such as I describe may still not fit you perfectly, so be aware that you should either try one before purchasing or be prepared to make a few minor modifications to the stock if you plan on getting serious about your shooting.
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·hey thanks a lot for the answer.
i've tried the 391 urika lots of times. must admit i don't know which 1 it was. i think it was sporting. i want the least amount of recoil i can get. i will check out the beretta site soon. i'm making my purchase saturday.
have a good 1.
by the way i'm in il, too. where do you shoot?
i've tried the 391 urika lots of times. must admit i don't know which 1 it was. i think it was sporting. i want the least amount of recoil i can get. i will check out the beretta site soon. i'm making my purchase saturday.
have a good 1.
by the way i'm in il, too. where do you shoot?
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If you have the chance I'd go shoot the 391 again before buying it and write down which model and specs it is. The Sporting model says "Sporting" along the top of the barrel.
What length barrel did you shoot? 28"? 30"? Other?
In terms of recoil, all of the 391's should be the same (not the Extrema 3.5" though). Once you have selected a gun, which load you shoot will be the next factor in recoil. I have an AL391 Sporting model with 30" barrel and I've tried several loads for shooting clay targets. I started out shooting Winchester AA Super Sporting target loads and they were taking my shoulder off. My local shooting place has Fiocchi as their standard shell for sale and those are ok for me. I tried a case of Winchester AA Light Target Loads and I really liked those. I intend to buy more of those for shooting skeet and maybe trap. I'm not sure I'd use them for sporting clays.
Assuming you are in the U.S.A., the Beretta website that you want to look at is:
http://www.berettausa.com
When you look at the list of products, they separate them into two broad categories: Field guns, and Competition guns. There are AL391's in both categories, but the ones that we've been talking about are in the Competitions guns section.
Good luck on your purchase. Don't rush into it. Make sure you get what you want or wait until you know what it is you really want.
What length barrel did you shoot? 28"? 30"? Other?
In terms of recoil, all of the 391's should be the same (not the Extrema 3.5" though). Once you have selected a gun, which load you shoot will be the next factor in recoil. I have an AL391 Sporting model with 30" barrel and I've tried several loads for shooting clay targets. I started out shooting Winchester AA Super Sporting target loads and they were taking my shoulder off. My local shooting place has Fiocchi as their standard shell for sale and those are ok for me. I tried a case of Winchester AA Light Target Loads and I really liked those. I intend to buy more of those for shooting skeet and maybe trap. I'm not sure I'd use them for sporting clays.
Assuming you are in the U.S.A., the Beretta website that you want to look at is:
http://www.berettausa.com
When you look at the list of products, they separate them into two broad categories: Field guns, and Competition guns. There are AL391's in both categories, but the ones that we've been talking about are in the Competitions guns section.
Good luck on your purchase. Don't rush into it. Make sure you get what you want or wait until you know what it is you really want.
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Glad to help. Hope you can get a good price on your new gun.redcross_in_chicago said:
I am in the SE part of the state and shoot quite a bit in the MtVernon area. This is where the Rend Lake Shooting Complex is located. It is a state of the art facility located just off I-57...very easily accessible. If you are ever down this way be sure to bring the Beretta along. As much as I don't want to support our new governor I am going to shoot in the Governor's Cup tomorrow. It will be held at Faller's near Butler in the west central part of the state. Should be fun-close to 90 with humidity to match. We've already had around 3" of rain this week with more on the way.
The fact that its a 391 semi-auto will take away a lot of recoil, but it will finally be in the loads you shoot that give you the overall result.
A nicely reworked 391 can shoot 1 oz or even 7/8 oz loads with ease. These loads give off very little recoil. I believe the AA light loads are 1 oz.
Have you considered reloading? Not for cost savings, but mainly for recoil reduction. I think its a myth that you save tons of money reloading. I've been reloading for a few years, and must admit my cost is still about $3.20/25 rounds.
I swear by my 12Ga Win AA's, which I reload with 7/8 oz duplex loads. AND I shoot these in an O/U, and also shot them in a Browning Gold Clays semi-auto I used to own, with no cycling problems at all. Recoil in either gun feels like a .22 rifle, and I can take 40 yd crossers without a problem.
I also shoot 30" bbls always, even in a semi auto; I believe the accuracy and the weight-to-reduce-recoil are both positives.
Good shooting!
A nicely reworked 391 can shoot 1 oz or even 7/8 oz loads with ease. These loads give off very little recoil. I believe the AA light loads are 1 oz.
Have you considered reloading? Not for cost savings, but mainly for recoil reduction. I think its a myth that you save tons of money reloading. I've been reloading for a few years, and must admit my cost is still about $3.20/25 rounds.
I swear by my 12Ga Win AA's, which I reload with 7/8 oz duplex loads. AND I shoot these in an O/U, and also shot them in a Browning Gold Clays semi-auto I used to own, with no cycling problems at all. Recoil in either gun feels like a .22 rifle, and I can take 40 yd crossers without a problem.
I also shoot 30" bbls always, even in a semi auto; I believe the accuracy and the weight-to-reduce-recoil are both positives.
Good shooting!
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·391 sporting with 28" is what your looking for.
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My company barters Beretta shotguns, and if you have something to trade you should contact us at [email protected]
However, the reason for my post is that I agree with Instinctive Shooter, and many international skeet shooters agree with Instinctive about using a parallel comb on the shotgun.
If you are just going to shoot trap, get a Beretta Trapwith a 30 inch barrel.
Beretta also makes a Beretta Target, with a parallel comb, and what I like about this gun is that if you lower the comb it shoots flat, whereas a trap gun might shoot high. A Target gun can be set to shoot all endeavors, and has the parallel comb which moves straight back on the cheek. The gun will shoot flat for skeet and sporting, and can be set to shoot high for trap.
However, the reason for my post is that I agree with Instinctive Shooter, and many international skeet shooters agree with Instinctive about using a parallel comb on the shotgun.
If you are just going to shoot trap, get a Beretta Trapwith a 30 inch barrel.
Beretta also makes a Beretta Target, with a parallel comb, and what I like about this gun is that if you lower the comb it shoots flat, whereas a trap gun might shoot high. A Target gun can be set to shoot all endeavors, and has the parallel comb which moves straight back on the cheek. The gun will shoot flat for skeet and sporting, and can be set to shoot high for trap.
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My company barters Beretta shotguns, and if you have something to trade you should contact us at [email protected]
However, the reason for my post is that I agree with Instinctive Shooter, and many international skeet shooters agree with Instinctive about using a parallel comb on the shotgun.
If you are just going to shoot trap, get a Beretta Trapwith a 30 inch barrel.
Beretta also makes a Beretta Target, with a parallel comb, and what I like about this gun is that if you lower the comb it shoots flat, whereas a trap gun might shoot high. A Target gun can be set to shoot all endeavors, and has the parallel comb which moves straight back on the cheek. The gun will shoot flat for skeet and sporting, and can be set to shoot high for trap.
However, the reason for my post is that I agree with Instinctive Shooter, and many international skeet shooters agree with Instinctive about using a parallel comb on the shotgun.
If you are just going to shoot trap, get a Beretta Trapwith a 30 inch barrel.
Beretta also makes a Beretta Target, with a parallel comb, and what I like about this gun is that if you lower the comb it shoots flat, whereas a trap gun might shoot high. A Target gun can be set to shoot all endeavors, and has the parallel comb which moves straight back on the cheek. The gun will shoot flat for skeet and sporting, and can be set to shoot high for trap.
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I have a 30" parralell sporting and like it allot for trap and SC.. I particularly like the adjustable stock cast, drop and LOP feature. It wasn't hard to get the gun to fit. Just ad a chell catcher and /or deflecter and your all set. BTW, If you look around there are a fair # of lightly used ones on the net at a decient discount. The new ones have a new optima choke system that people are trading "up " to. I have the old system and am very happy.
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