I flinch just thinking about pulling the trigger on those in the dove field.

 

I sure didn’t get them for dogs. I got them because the box I don’t like the fast stuff

 

Blended shot has been offered over the years and ultimitely falls out of favor........Doesn't accomplish anything over standard shot size loads.........A new marketing ploy for a VERY OLD idea.

 

I just really like the all red package

 

Makes me flinch just looking at the specs.

 

Why?

Too much speed and a too heavy load?

 

Thanks

 

Compared to the graphics of my youth and earlier....sorry, not a fan.

Plus, the shell looks out of proportion for a 2 3/4" 12 gauge....white on black is easy to read tho.

 

Yea 1400 velocity won't be in the chambers of any of my guns. I had my O/U double on me on the skeet field. My shoulder felt that one for awhile.

 

Ouch!

 

That looks like a FITASC load from 1991. Ouch!

 

Winchester ought to be ashamed

 

Because of the red box, 1-1/4oz load, 1400fps or all three? mutilate anything you shoot.

 

New definition of ugly

 

Ounce and a quarter of blended shot at 1400...Pre-ground dove burgers falling from the sky 😂

 

Anyone dove hunting with less than 1-1/2 or 2 ounces is shorting themselves. Wouldn’t even waste my money.

 

I almost feel like nobody read what I posted just looked at the box

 

There is no way that there is/was a demand for a Magnum Dove load.
I know I gripe (a LOT) about their lack of and their continuing decline of 16 gauge offerings - but this is crazy if they think that more people are clamoring for this type of ammo.

 

The guy who hunts dove once a year...on opening day.....and thinks these boomer shells will make him a better shot, will buy two boxes.
That includes a LOT of guys......

 

Do they make a 3-1/2" Super Mag version?

 

I think a 10ga is required for those long shots on doves.

 

I think I would have just taken the picture in the store and then bought something that I would use.

 

I am with you, I have never bought anything because of the packaging it was in.
In this case, marketing wins again.
Steve

 

More than 1 1/8 ounce shot for doves seems unnecessary. I don’t have anything interest in 9 shot, either- I think I’ll probably not get a box of these to try.

 

They sweep up spillage , put it in a shell with poorly regulated powder drop and brag about it. C’mon man.

 

can't even use them on the trap or skeet fields

 

I agree with the OP, cool looking box.

 

@joelbiltz
I think this other new product is WAY better looking! What do u think of this box? I like the older looking box.

 

Be nicer w/o the camo graphics.

 

Cool box, useless load. Only flinch factor is in a pump or old single barrel.

 

Years ago I was at a big shoot and Federal was there with the brand new Pheasant Forever loads. I was chatting with them and asked why they didn’t put #4 or #5 shot in their classic pigeon load - 1.25 oz @ 1220 fps. This would pattern great, have moderate recoil and kill any wild pheasant. They agreed with me and said the more shot they put in a shell and the faster they make it go, the more ammo they sell. People are stupid.

 

They agreed with me and said the more shot they put in a shell and the faster they make it go, the more ammo they sell. People are stupid.

Uhhh... I'm just gonna say 12ga vs. 28ga. 10ga vs 12ga. What are you saying? Lol

I shoot a lot of subgauge, but I understand the more-pellets more-speed desire.

And if I may advise, the 1.25oz Raptor, nay RAPTOR I say, is the evolutionary culmination! Now if RAPTOR would just mate with the new Winchester "MAGNUM DOVE!" 1.25oz loads, well... that would be almost as good as the BFG9000 from original DOOM.

 

In years past I was a very serious dove hunter. I once read an article or comment from another very successful Dove Hunter who advocated using 1 1/4 oz. of number 9s to fill out the pattern at longer ranges, saying there was enough of them in the pattern at distance to provide multiple strikes, and put a dove down.

Just for the heck of it, one late season hunting over a picked corn field, I gave it a try at 1220-1225. I didn't lose any even at 30 to 40 yards, or have any hit but Fly Away. I saw no advantage or disadvantage over my standard late season load of 7 1/2 and 1 oz or 1 1/8. I see no need to try it again. Although they worked that day for me, I feel much more confident and efficient using 7 1/2 and no heavier than 1 oz. or 1 1/8 at most. Most of my dove, regardless of range or point in the season, were taken with 1 oz. or 7/8 oz. out of a 16 or 20 bore.

It was a fun day just for the novelty of it, also partly because I was using a Super X Model 1 factory choked .009 that made absolutely beautiful, efficient, patterns. I was not undergunned even at 40 yards.

I'm surprised Winchester would even offer that load. They couldn't have consulted too many dove hunters first. Blended shot, super fast, heavy load? No need for that new mouse trap. Is it a current market offering? Even so, you won't be seeing them around long. "Consumer (demand ) is King".

 

We used to shoot #6s at really high whitewings. That usually meant 1-1/4oz at 1250 fps. The old "duck and pheasant" loads the older guys used back in the day for waterfowl were hotter at 1330 fps. The idea of 1400 fps and duplex shot in a dove load just sounds like another dumb gimmick IMO. Neat looking box though.

 

I've always liked the Remington Game Load boxes with dove, bunnies, quail, and squirrel depicted on them. The Red Dove Magnum box (and load) is a fail for me. I see how others can appreciate the uniqueness though.

I hunt mostly with reloads and don't use many boxes anyway! Just vest pockets, containers, and my stool!

 

I do like the graphics as well. They should catch your eye from 15' away. If you are new to Dove hunting or in a hurry while shopping the bold simple design will definitely stand out from the rest of the boxes on the shelf. Remember, marketers and advertisers know that the majority of consumers have made up their mind on what they are going purchase prior to entering the store. The rest are impulse purchases. The box and graphics will work, just ask the original person who posted this. I too would probably purchased a box just to have on my shelf. Will they kill doves? Absolutely!