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I got the one that Krieghoff offers on their website and am very happy. As I recall the old bead just unscrewed. The kit had the correct screw and couldn't have been easier to install. The new site is bright but very small (compared to the original Hi-Viz versions) and works well.

I guess you can get them from many sources but I ordered mine while my K-80 was on the way and as I recall there was a question as to which of two variations mine might take. Krieghoff knew and their price was about the same as other places I found it.
 

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drsfmd said:
The bead unscrews... but keep in mind most feel that the light pipe takes your eye away from the bird, as it's brighter than the bird is...
This might be a problem but a worse problem is losing the perifrial vison of the gun in mixed camo background. The eyes go looking for it and you know what happens then...

It's a vision thing, for sure, and everyones vision is different.
 

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rta48 said:
dugout, may I ask why you would ever want to see the barrel?
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Sure, because I want to hit what I'm shooting at... :wink:
Seriously, I focus on the target but need/want to see my barrel in my peripheral vision as a sustained lead shooter. Loose the barrel completely and my eye will leave the target to find it and that is bad Juju, gun stops; and I'm toast. There is a fine line and it's a personal vision thing, for sure. I have a very strong target focus so I can handle a little more bead brightness. If someone has trouble focusing on the target and their eyes tend to come back to the barrel bead brightness is the last thing they need.

rta48, do you subscribe to the "you don't need anything on the barrel" group?
 

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focus on the BIRD, not the sight/rib/barrel - your scores will thank you for it
 

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oneounceload said:
focus on the BIRD, not the sight/rib/barrel - your scores will thank you for it
I think that has been said at least twice... :roll: Even with an intense target focus it's misleading to infer one can lose awareness of where the barrels are and be consistent. Gun fit to where one looks is where one points, and shoots, sounds romantic and all great but it's ignores reality. That might be the way the someones conscious mind sees it but it's not the way the subconscious mind works. Lose reference to the barrels and the shot is gone. Maintain this reference with peripheral vision while, and again, maintaining an intense target focus.
 

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dugout said:
oneounceload said:
focus on the BIRD, not the sight/rib/barrel - your scores will thank you for it
I think that has been said at least twice... :roll: Even with an intense target focus it's misleading to infer one can lose awareness of where the barrels are and be consistent. Gun fit to where one looks is where one points, and shoots, sounds romantic and all great but it's ignores reality. That might be the way the someones conscious mind sees it but it's not the way the subconscious mind works. Lose reference to the barrels and the shot is gone. Maintain this reference with peripheral vision while, and again, maintaining an intense target focus.
My coach had me shoot a round of skeet, from all over the field - not on stations, with a cardboard cutout over the barrels so it was impossible to see the last 1/3 of the barrels. After missing the 1st two, he told me to settle down and just shoot it as I normally would - I only missed 2 of the next 23. The point he was making was if I had proper form and mount, I didn't need to "see" the barrels at all. To me, he proved his point.
 
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