i have five krieghoffs, three k-80's, two k-32's. i have a high grade trap 80 with upgrade wood, backup 32 trap, high grade sporter 80 with upgrade wood, backup skeet 80, high grade 32 skeet. my 32 trap has an adj. comb sporter stock so i can use it to hunt with. these are the most pleasurable guns i have ever had, the best shooting, the lightest kicking o/u's on the market. the only thing better than the guns is the service. larry woo at wings and clays is my dealer, and is the most dedicated dealer i have ever met. every time we talk on the phone on his nickel,(try that with the dealer that sold you your gun!!), he never fails to ask me how my guns are performing and is there anything he can do for me. the last three krieghoffs i bought came from larry woo. he has great prices, too. the avid tournament shooter can get a good used krieghoff tube gun, sporter, or trap for just a few dollars more than the gun you are shooting. i am not flaming any other brand, but service is a major part of owning a gun that you will shoot so much. krieghoff service will spoil you for life. krieghoff shooters do not sell their guns, they upgrade them. the k gun shooters are the company's best advertisement!