[kingbigwig]

I am looking for any information on this SxS 20g, with 24" barrels.
Model and age would be nice to know.
What I do know, has extractors, not ejectors.
Was converted to single trigger.
It has additional engraving, gold inlay work on underside.
No known nitro proof stamp can be found.
Was brought to the U.S. at the end of the war by an serviceman.


Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
Kev

 

[kingbigwig]

More photos

 

[Jta5er]

Raimey will be by soon to give you some information, but a wonderful Prussian made sauer 20 that had someone who knew what they were doing up grade and refinish it. Super nice find!

 

[Jta5er]

Looks like it has choke measurements marked on barrel?

 

[kingbigwig]

Looks like it has choke measurements marked on barrel?

Yes, I think this was done sometime after original, but not sure. It even looks like one was restamped.

 

[Jta5er]

.625 would be bore size other would be choke size.

 

[kingbigwig]

.625 would be bore size other would be choke size.

Correct, I also verified the numbers with a dial bore gage, numbers match what is stamped.

 

[Jta5er]

If I’m reading the serial number chart correct it’s made between 1910- 1911. But Raimey is the expert im not even a very good student. I’m reading from his older stuff to find it.

 

[Jta5er]

well, not a horrible student.

 

[kingbigwig]

If I’m reading the serial number chart correct it’s made between 1910- 1911. But Raimey is the expert im not even a very good student. I’m reading from his older stuff to find it.

1910-1911 would coincide with the lack of the nitro proof stamp.

 

[Jta5er]

I shoot a 1908 gun with Krupp fluid steel barrels. I’m more worried about the wood than the steel. I got the information on the steel years ago something around 100000 psi tensile strength. I’m not telling you it’s safe I just believe mine is if you know what I mean.

 

[ellenbr]

Kerner Anson platform with a single Sauer Quality Crown. Those diameters were applied by an American mechanic in a honing or opening the forcing cone effort I bet. I will try to inspect the images a little closer. But the term >> Prussia<< denotes export so Sauer may not have paid for the Nitro proof since it may have been going to a country without proof laws. Check A&F's serial number set? I will dig a bit.

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

 

[rick_6284]

I tend to lean toward the quoted description from Ger above. Here is the thing that strikes me.

Sauer and Son stamping

The guns I've seen are all Sauer and Sohn like the old Hawes I sold my brother recently, that was a 70's Sauer and Sohn revolver.

 

[Jta5er]

No they started Sauer and sohn stamp in 1840. Ger was proven absolutely wrong in that old thread. The serial number and date are correct. This one was exported to English speaking country hence Son, spelling.

 

[kingbigwig]

Does anyone have an idea what the model name or number is? It's driving me mad, I don't even know what to call it.

 

[ellenbr]

Like I said, a non inland would wear the stamp of Prussia (Country of Origin) as well as the English spelling of Son. Almost all inland German Sauer guns wear the Sohn, such as War trophies in the US of A.

 

[ellenbr]

I believe it is a Modell VIII(8)?

I will check further.

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

 

[thatvoodoothatyoudo]

I believe it is a Modell VIII(8)?

I will check further.

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

I am looking for any information on this SxS 20g, with 24" barrels.
Model and age would be nice to know.
What I do know, has extractors, not ejectors.
Was converted to single trigger.
It has additional engraving, gold inlay work on underside.
No known nitro proof stamp can be found.
Was brought to the U.S. at the end of the war by an serviceman.


Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
Kev
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Looks like a model VIII that has been polished and customized with the gold dogs head - “safe” in English shows it was made for export to USA.
Nice gun with ( to me) short barrels( 24”).
Cabelas in Las Vegas has a similar model ( sans the custom touches) , also with 24” barrels.
TVTYD

 

[Jta5er]

I think this one is 1000-1500.00 over priced but that’s just my opinion

https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/101173112

 

[ellenbr]

I see from Griffin & Howe's database that Sauer & Son numbers 161579 & 161704 passed thru their shop.

Serbus,

Raimey
rse