Hello everyone great site you have here. I have applied for my rifle/shotgun permit and it should be here in 2-6 months. I would like to buy my firearm before I get my permit and keep it in long island or upstate. I would like a gun that is fun for ranges and good for HD. At first I wanted a saiga .308 rifle, but I am not allowed to have a clip for a rifle or shotgun that holds more than 5 rounds. They only make 8 rounders for the saiga. Then I looked at a remington vs or pss .308 because they sounded like they would be fun for sub MOA shooting but not good for HD. So it comes down to this...Get a mossberg 935 or something a little better and take up the hobby of skeet, trap and clay (don't know the difference lol) and that will be my only gun for awhile. Or Remington vs or pss for target AND a norinco riot gun for HD. I would be willing to drive about 1 1/2 hours form the city to find a skeet/trap/clay range. How much does it cost? I really just want to get my gun take a class on gun safety/cleaning/striping and get a good lock