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To some people it will be worth every penny, but not to me. But then I am a Semi-Auto guy. :D

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To some people it will be worth every penny, but not to me. But then I am a Semi-Auto guy. :D

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In order to be in business for 4 decades they have to have a costumer base , hoping to hear from someone who actually owns one , If you think about the claim that they produce the finest shotguns in the world there must be someone out there that can confirm it or debunk it through ownership experience .
They didn't touch up on action work and mechanics or anything and so i'm curious what makes them the finest in the world besides standard engraving (for more $ we'll fill the same engraving with gold ) and extra checkering .
 

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Are they the finest in the world? No. Are they worth it? Depends on what you like or value. I bought one in January. I went to their factory show room and made sure that they fit me and to look one over and bought a M21 in std grade with exhibition grade upgraded wood. I like the look of nicely figured wood with a plain blued receiver. I'm not a fan of lots of busy engraving so the pigeon grade didn't interest me. While this shotgun is styled after the M21 Winchester that Winchester never got produced, the action is very close to the B Rizzini design, which is a proven and dependable action. If you like pretty shotguns and really like nice wood, you will like them. I'd rather shoot my Browning 725 20 ga at skeet but that is mostly because I've shot Brownings for so many years that I'm just so used to how they feel. I like to look at the M21 and it does feel nice in the hand with very nice balance. I've not had any problems with it. A friend has a RBL SXS and really likes it. They really put great wood on them. Some have horror stories with their repairs but I haven't needed any. My friend had his stock fitted to him by them and while it took them a little longer then he liked, they did a great job and, I believe, at no charge. The wood finish is top notch. Unlike on my Browning, the grain is all filled and the finish is like glass. They don't put a too dark stain on them that obscures the wood's figure. I believe they use Winchester's reddish stain. They are nice. Worth it? That all depends on what you like in a shotgun.
 

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So,,,, just who is this "judgement determining association or organization that determines just exactly WHO "the finest in the world" is..............................
Hmmmmmmmm????????

An advertising company, that's who.

The term for that which was discovered about the time Pizza Hut sued Pappa John's pizza over P.J's having the audacity to claim their pizza was "better", was "puffery".

The United States Federal Trade Commission (FTC) defined puffery as a "term frequently used to denote the exaggerations reasonably to be expected of a seller as to the degree of quality of his product, the truth or falsity of which cannot be precisely determined."

You can read a whole lot more about it than most people care to, from lawyers :spit: no less, the American Bar Assn.
"The World's Most Trusted
Article on Puffery":
Non-Actionable Puffery or Misleading?

http://www.americanbar.org/content/dam/ ... eckdam.pdf
 

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Nice looking O/U, is it worth the cost? The way I look at this sport, its YOUR money and how you spend it is your business. If you have the disposable income to buy a 10 grand S/G then have at it and I will admire your piece. I can only imagine the agony of the owner after they accidentally damage the finish with use. STUFF HAPPENS!
I "babied" my new S/G for a year and finally nicked it up cosmetically. I was hurt and then relieved to get it over with and not worry about keeping the S/G pristine. I almost think it would be better if the new gun owner deliberately scarred the finish and get over trying to maintain a perfect finish that's eventually will be nicked up with use.
Consider it a "badge of honor".
 

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Nice looking O/U, is it worth the cost? The way I look at this sport, its YOUR money and how you spend it is your business. If you have the disposable income to buy a 10 grand S/G then have at it and I will admire your piece. I can only imagine the agony of the owner after they accidentally damage the finish with use. STUFF HAPPENS!
I "babied" my new S/G for a year and finally nicked it up cosmetically. I was hurt and then relieved to get it over with and not worry about keeping the S/G pristine. I almost think it would be better if the new gun owner deliberately scarred the finish and get over trying to maintain a perfect finish that's eventually will be nicked up with use.
Consider it a "badge of honor".
Back in 2002 I bought a Browning XS skeet with adjustable comb. First round at the skeet range and there was a new guy in the squad with an 1187 who on station 2 after shooting swung around quickly as he walked off smacking the forend of my gun putting a big gouge in it. I said wtf, this is a new gun man. His response was "tough s..t what do you want from me". The range officer escorted him off the field. They reimbursed him for the round and asked him to leave. For me I was depressed but in time got over it. Still shooting that gun today. :wink:
 

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I have a CSMC Model 21 O/U.
No problems to date and plan to take it to So Dak in a few weeks for wild pheasants.
I am very pleased with the gun and shoot it very well.
 
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