red dot and reflex sight recommendations

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geewiz

Discussion Starter · Nov 16, 2007

Looking for any advise on reflex or red dot sights for a 870p 18". Looking for something that is suited well for a 18" 12g sg. I've heard the aimpoint micro T1 is great but expensive. Saw a Trijicon RX06 but I haven't been able to compare it with anything else. Maybe Docter, Burris fastfire, Trijicon MS04? MOA recommendations?

Thanks

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topmaul

· #2 · Nov 16, 2007

What MOA dot are you wanting I think that is more improtant than brand.

Photoman930

· #3 · Nov 16, 2007

The Aimpoint Micro with a LaRue low mount is what I want for my Mossberg 930. The H1 is a bit less than the T1.

madcratebuilder

· #4 · Nov 16, 2007

I bought this holo sight because it was on sale.
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.e ... t=11082005
Shot well on my 22/45 and AR. Need to fab up a rail mount for my 870 receiver and try it.

smile_at_u90012

· #5 · Nov 16, 2007

red dot and reflex sights are both the same but that holo type is better than the tube type for aiming, moa should not be a big concern if the range is under 100 yrds.aimpoint leads the field now but i cant see paying that much for one.

Eth0

· #6 · Nov 16, 2007

I have try cheap options (made in china) and was disappointed and decide to go with what I already had on my CX4 and that can hold the zero. The OKO option...
http://www.oktarget.cz/armada_en.html

This "Czech" is one of the red dot used for IPSC and by many military/L.E in Europe. You can also get the protective cover.

I believe you guys can get it at STI store (Texas).

Here is few pictures of the sight:

I also have the EOTech on my AR that I am sure will fill your needs. My friend have the Aimpoint on his Mossy and it's also a great option. Both will be excellent choice but more expensive than the OKO.

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Elesar

· #7 · Nov 16, 2007

What is the general feeling about the C-more sights? Good quality?

geewiz

Discussion Starter · #8 · Nov 17, 2007

Topmaul
I haven't decided what MOA would work best for a 18" sg. Originally I thought that anything over four was really big but I wasn't really thinking about the true range of a 12g. 2moa is what I'd be using on my rifles but I'm not sure what's practical on a shot gun. Trijicon RX06 is what I believe I looked through on a sg but I'm not confident thats the exact model number. It had a triangular amber sight and it seem to work pretty well. Their web sit shows that as a 12.9moa which I would never had guessed unless they have another solid triagular reflex site that I'm not seeing.

geewiz

Discussion Starter · #9 · Nov 17, 2007

the aimpoint micro T1 I hear is great. What is the difference between that and the H1. I don't mind paying more for a site that I don't have to be worrying about battery power very much or at all, or something that allows you to find the site and target quickly. But I don't want to pay for night vision compatible hardware. I'm not sure if that's what is adding to the price of a T1. I've heard of some $500 sights that act funny when the heat builds up from repeated firing or from powerful recoil. Dots going fuzzy or doubling up. If I'm paying more to avoid that stuff its fine.

I heard the doctor and the fastfire have superior optics and are built well

Photoman930

· #10 · Nov 17, 2007

I think the night vision capability and an increased waterproof depth are the two major differences. I don't plan on scuba diving with my shotgun

and don't own night vision equipment so the H1 would probably be just fine for me.

HOMELANDEFENDER

· #11 · Nov 17, 2007

I have the EOTech and Fastfire . The EOTech is hands down faster on target. But considering that I'd mostly be shooting off the front site for distances out to 25yrds, I felt that going to the Fastfire was a better choice. Much lighter; 3 to 4 yrs battery life; 4 moa dot is good for precision using slugs. Which is really the only reason why I'd use a red dot. For 25 to 50+ yards distances where I'd have more time to get off the shot. Indoors -- I use the Fastfire as a rear gost ring as I focus on the tritium front sight blade aiming at center mass. Very fast that way.

BTW - I have the VangComp system on my rig. I'm always amazed at the ultra tight groups I get using standard loads of 00 buck. As in under 8" on average (25yrds), and average bests of under 7" using non LE loads. The use of a VCS barrel almost requires a red dot to take full advantage of the killer groups. I'm a believer.

HLD...

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m24shooter

· #12 · Nov 17, 2007

Sorry to hijack, but what rail is that under your TLR?

HOMELANDEFENDER

· #13 · Nov 18, 2007

m24shooter said:
Sorry to hijack, but what rail is that under your TLR?

He's on this forum...

http://www.candewman.com/products.htm

HLD...

m24shooter

· #14 · Nov 18, 2007

Thanks, I guess I can PM him, there's not much to the site.

stremph

· #15 · Nov 19, 2007

I ran a Simmons 42mm red dot with a 4moa dot on my Mossberg 500 20ga. Held up perfectly under the recoil, bright enough dot to be seen in bright Arizona sunlight, cost me under $70.

Not sure what kind of work you're looking to do with it or what kind of money you're willing to throw at a red dot, but as far as the lower-end red dots go, the Simmons line seems to be a solid bet. I've also read good things about Tasco's Aimpoint clone (around $100) and Bushnell's Holosight (under $300) as alternatives to Aimpoints and EoTechs, but have no experience with either.

topmaul

· #16 · Nov 19, 2007

Right now I plan to put a low end NcStar on my Shotgun with a CAA shotgun barrel mount I hope it works. It will be tested in a 3 gun match next Saturday. Also being tested is my CX4 Storm carbine max range will be 60 yards so the storm should be just the ticket being shorter and much more handy than my AR or AK. Sometimes a pistol caliber carbine is just the thing. Another cool feature is that it takes the same magazine as my pistol so I can put a 32 round mag in my pistol if needed.

The CX4 has my PK01 on it and it is dialed in I will have red dots on both my carbine and my shotgun heck at this point maybe I should get my aimteck optic mount and put it on my Beretta. LOL

BMPregler

· #17 · Nov 20, 2007

tag

BillL223

· #18 · Nov 21, 2007

Why would you need an optic on an HD shotgun? Unless melted in, the optic will be too high for a good cheek-weld unless you raise the comb. When I shot Open Class in Practical Shotgun, I used a Tasco PD-5 with raised comb which was O.K., but now I'm shooting with a front bead and am faster and I don't have to remember to turn the dot on or worry about batteries.

smile_at_u90012

· #19 · Nov 21, 2007

BillL223 said:
Why would you need an optic on an HD shotgun? .

to be tactical like most people i suppose,it's not that difficult to remember to turn it on and to me, its easier to be n target then just the bead front sight.

m24shooter

· #20 · Nov 21, 2007

BillL223 said:
Why would you need an optic on an HD shotgun? Unless melted in, the optic will be too high for a good cheek-weld unless you raise the comb. When I shot Open Class in Practical Shotgun, I used a Tasco PD-5 with raised comb which was O.K., but now I'm shooting with a front bead and am faster and I don't have to remember to turn the dot on or worry about batteries.

Why does it have to based on need? Be careful when you start attaching need to anything firearms related. That's how kooky gun control gets started.
But anyway, maybe he wants to able to NOT have to have a good cheek weld and still be able to see his aiming point and the target. Maybe he likes the Little Red Dot of Death? Maybe he just likes it.

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