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i got a question. i could buy a red label for the same price as a beretta blackwing. same caliber that i want and barrel length. is there a quality difference between the two? they both felt good to me. as there anyreason to chose one over the other? i can get them both brand new. i appreciate any responses.
 

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Yes there is a difference between the two. The Ruger Red Label is a real good utility grade shotgun, balance is not always up to snuff, good general assembly and fit. The Beretta O/U, finer assembly, better balance and better finish quality of metal and wood. The question should be asked; which feels better to you when mounting? Did you get a chance to shoot a sample of each shotgun to see where they hit for you? My Ruger shoots bore line. The Beretta I tried shot a 70/30 pattern for me, which for my ungainally shooting style works better for bird hunting.
 

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i'm going to be buying a blackwing in the next couple or weeks, providing my tax return shows up soon. My only question is with the barrells on the blackwing not being solid all the way down if it is easier to dent or bent the barrells. 0ther then that i love the way the gun looks and handles. i haven't shot mine yet. won't let me do that.
 

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According to Beretta, and others, no stress is applied between the barells and all the metal linkage does is to keep them together.

However I like the more robust look and the safety of having a metal connection all the way.

I dont like being able to bend the barells of my guns...

The beretta is a bit delicate for my liking.
 

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I have a Berreta Whitewing. It has no rib between the barrels same as the Blackwing. Ruger also has a model without ribs as does the Remington 32. Kriegoff K80 just to name a few. I shot both Rugers and Berreta's but found the Berreta's have better balance. I don't feel the gap between the barrels makes the gun weaker or will cause dents in the barrel. :p
 

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hey deadeye,
i was just wondeirng. i have seen the whitewings i was just wonering what the pictures are on the sides of the reciever? i haven't seen the whitewing yet. I'm going to buy a blackwing myself but i'm just curious.
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I don't know about a red label, but I got a blackwing for graduation the other day and it is gorgeous...haven't shot it yet though...
 

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Hmm well they are both good guns but here is where I feel they differer. The beretta would be my choice for a upland/clays gun. It is lighter than the ruger and really looks the part. If I were using it for real tuff hunting like ducks, geese, or crane. I would get the ruger. The ruger is built hevier and I think stronger than the beretta. I would be more willing to take the ruger to a hunt where there is a chance of the gun taking a bath in a lake and 3" shells were being used all the time.

The ruger is a great hunting gun the beretta is more "refined" and I think is better suited to clays/upland shooting. They are both good guns and will work for any thingit just comes down to which is better at what.
 
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The Ruger is a far better buy and a wonderful shotgun for clays or filed in its own right. Berretas are ine guns but the quality and fit of a ruger sporting clay 30" version (which i have two) is superior than anything Berreta puts out in the $1,000 to $1,500 price range. Many may not agree with my opinion. But, I hvae had guys who own Berreta O/U's say to me that they wished they had bought a Ruger after trying my guns.
 
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Hi all, just found this site yesterday. I like what I see.

I have owned a 20ga Beretta silver pidgeon for 3 years and really like the gun.

Last year I bought a 28ga Red Label and haven't touched the Beretta since. The Ruger 28 makes me smile every time I use it. I hunt mostly pheasants and the occasional rabbit and the 28 works fine with high brass 6's.
 
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Backcountry said:
budd lake nj....

I think we may haunt the same areas...pheasant for me too. Are you from that area?
I'm not sure if I'm doing this right but here goes. I live in Budd lake but hunt up in Wantage. I belong to a club near the Sussex County airport. The bad news is there is a developer trying to buy our land from the owner. Our club is at the intersection of rt565 and Roy rd up past rt 15. We lease around 500 acres, 14 club members, and stock around 1,000 pheasants. I'll cry like a baby if we lose this lease!
 

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Hey, if nothing else the Red Label's receiver is made of (stainless) steel instead of the Blackwing's aluminum. I know I was disappointed to learn that fact about the Beretta...

-- Sam
 

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I don't own a Beretta but do own two Rad Labels. I know most folks think of the Red Label as the Ford Escort of OU but I have been very pleased with both my 12 and 20 ga. I use the 12 for waterfowl and some clays. I have shot it at ducks since I bought it way back with the SS reciever was first issued. The 20 is an old model with fixed chokes and blued receiver. It is a rabbit and quail killing machine. I do own other OUs. A Browning GTI and an old Winchester 101 Pidgeon grade trap gun.

Although the Beretta is a nicer grade of gun I think the Ruger will last longer and take a steady diet of anything you want to feed it. For the money Ruger is my vote

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i doubt that the Black wing has better quality components the the ruger i have a little bit older one so i have a very nice gloss finish on the wallnut instead of a matted which is an earlier one but still has the stainless steel reciever and screw in chokes to tell if you have an older one the but pad is usually red the older ones are nice but it seems like the new ones are a bit lighter. Definatly the ruger shoots and looks great.
 

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Is the Blackwing = Onyx? I just took a look on Beretta's website and could not find any reference to the Blackwing. Is there any other difference between the Whitewing and Onyx other than the Whitewing has the Silver receiver?

Thanks,
John
 
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