[Gator89]

Will the new factory have a union?

Yeah....we don't want those companies to have to pay a single dime more than they have to pay to those greedy workers. I mean....we would all rather have guns built by minimum wagers rather than to have guns built by someone making $25-$30 an hour who actually gave a rats a$$ about the guns they were building.

Everyone complains about greedy corporations taking advantage of tax breaks and corporate welfare, but God forbid we let workers organize to protect themselves from abuse and low wages offered by those same greedy corporations.

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, union workers make $200 more per week than non union workers. We can't have that now can we??

GA is a right to work state, which is best for all involved.

 

[Gator89]

Yeah....we don't want those companies to have to pay a single dime more than they have to pay to those greedy workers. I mean....we would all rather have guns built by minimum wagers rather than to have guns built by someone making $25-$30 an hour who actually gave a rats a$$ about the guns they were building.

Everyone complains about greedy corporations taking advantage of tax breaks and corporate welfare, but God forbid we let workers organize to protect themselves from abuse and low wages offered by those same greedy corporations.

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, union workers make $200 more per week than non union workers. We can't have that now can we??

Before or after dues are paid?

 

[Gator89]

True- but how would you feel if your employer said they were moving across the country because they didn’t believe with the current state’s laws? A lot gets impacted with something like that, but sometimes it is still necessary.

My career has moved me from sea to shining sea and border to border. I am back in FL because the company closed my plant in GA and offered FL or severance.

Fortunately FL is my ancestral home.

 

[Gator89]

The local workers may not want a union.

VW's Tennessee workers vote against union representation

Workers at Volkswagen AG's assembly plant in the state of Tennessee narrowly voted against union representation, dealing a fresh blow to the United Auto Workers' (UAW) efforts to unionize a foreign automaker's plant in the U.S. South.

www.reuters.com

 

[Gator89]

I never saw a union job where dues were $800 a month. You?

I have never had any taken out of my check, and no one has shown me a check with union dues that high.

So, no I have not seen any $800 monthly union dues.

But I cannot attest that such does not exist.

 

[Gator89]

You have yet to refute my original statement. That being that union jobs pay higher wages and higher total compensation than non union jobs. That fact is not even debatable. Yet here you are.

I have to ask why you're against your fellow Americans making more money??

I worked for one of the largest animal feed manufacturers in the country for 20 years, at both union and non-union plants. The union employees did not make more than non-union in that company. Each union plant had its own contract, various unions too, Teamsters, Bakery Workers, one was rep'ed by the UAW.

One plant striking could not shutdown the rest of the plants in the company.

The company made sure to pay wages equal to or better than other feed manufacturing jobs in a given market.

I have sat across the table from enough business agents to make me appreciate never having to pay for their services.

 

[Gator89]

Right to work laws are just nanny-state, big gubmint regulations. There’s no reason for the state to govern private, mutually agreed to contracts between private businesses and private unions, which is what so called right to work laws actually do.

Interesting thought, but nothing is more in favor of big government than the big unions.

 

[Gator89]

One can always find outliers WRT equal pay in a non union vs union plant. I'm not pro union nor am I against unions. The overall average data shows that union jobs pay higher wages and higher overall compensation than non union jobs. I've presented data proving that. No one has presented data to refute that fact. Despite numerous opportunities to do so.

Both of my parents were union members, railroad and post office. I don't begrudge folks being in a union, but I am glad I have worked outside of one for my career.