Sportsman 48, or 58 if gas operated.
Remington autoloader I.D.? (more info now)
I picked up an older 12 g autoloader 2 3/4". It has a B-square saddle mount on it. It has all the same lines as an 1100. Side-by-side it appears to be an 1100. It has the same lines in the wood and all. Underneath part of the saddle mount I can see half of "SPORTSMAN", but I cannot see anything else. I removed the saddle mount and it says "Sportsman 12 Auto" under there. Serial number is P0578XXV. It has a Remington marked smoothbore rifle sight barrel on it. I had the dealer pull a field barrel off another 1100 and it was exactly the same as the rifle sigth barrel on it and it locked up correctly. I test fired (3) field loads in it for function and it cycled just fine. It's too dark to test fire slugs for accuracy tonight. It came with the saddlemount and a Tasco Pro Point red dot, rifle sight smooth bore and a decent cloth padded sling for $375. The gun looks barely shot, and hardly carried too. Is this an 1100? I may want to remove that saddle mount and just use the sights, but I'll have to order trigger group pins to replace when I pull the saddlemount. I need to know what model to order them for. I cannot post pics on this board so far, so I can only describe or answer questions on this one. How can I tell which model I have for sure? Thanks[/b]
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No, I wish I could figure out how to post photos. I have compared it to the Model 48, the Model 58 and the Model 11-48 photos I find and it definately isn't any of them. It matches everything to a "T" for the 1100 model and we pulled a field barrel off another 1100 at the store and the barrel lugs and all match perfectly. We mounted the 1100 field barrel and it locked up as it was supposed to. So, good news is...I'm fairly confident that it is an 1100 under the "Sporstman" name. From what I read, it's a not-so-fancy 1100 made under that name, sort of like the EXPRESS model and the Sportsman 11-87 with the low gloss wood and flat black matte finished metal. This one has blued metal and a semi gloss finish to the wood. I read in a few posts here how Remington made all their models, starting clear back to the Model 11 in a plainer, not so fancy version under this "Sportsman" name. They usually draw a little less $$ when selling, but in essance the same gun.
Mine is virtually like new, some very minor finish issues and not many signs of being fired at all. Looks like it was carried a little and shot even less! It has a B-Square saddle mount ($30+), a Tasco Pro Point 30mm red dot (apprx $60 is the cheapest price I can find this model for in USED condition, $90 NEW) Swivel stud magazine cap, and a decent sling with quick release sling keepers. Well over $100 in add on options and great thing for me....they are all things I would have wanted to do if it didn't have them. I was hoping to find one with a smooth bore slug barrel, but had resigned myself to maybe buying a field barrelled gun and having to find a smoothbore slug barrel for it. This one was exactly what I wanted. True, I would have rather had one that says "Remington 1100" on the side, but it is all the same to me.
I paid less than $400 out the door for it. In my neighborhood, fairly well used 1100 12g's are going for between $400-$500 with no extras. I can get one on auction for a little less maybe, but risk problems without being able to look it over and shipping damages, then have to sink $$ into the extras I want. The ffl transfer fees and shipping eat up a whole lot of good price!!!!
Mine is virtually like new, some very minor finish issues and not many signs of being fired at all. Looks like it was carried a little and shot even less! It has a B-Square saddle mount ($30+), a Tasco Pro Point 30mm red dot (apprx $60 is the cheapest price I can find this model for in USED condition, $90 NEW) Swivel stud magazine cap, and a decent sling with quick release sling keepers. Well over $100 in add on options and great thing for me....they are all things I would have wanted to do if it didn't have them. I was hoping to find one with a smooth bore slug barrel, but had resigned myself to maybe buying a field barrelled gun and having to find a smoothbore slug barrel for it. This one was exactly what I wanted. True, I would have rather had one that says "Remington 1100" on the side, but it is all the same to me.
I paid less than $400 out the door for it. In my neighborhood, fairly well used 1100 12g's are going for between $400-$500 with no extras. I can get one on auction for a little less maybe, but risk problems without being able to look it over and shipping damages, then have to sink $$ into the extras I want. The ffl transfer fees and shipping eat up a whole lot of good price!!!!
Remington has used the Sportsman name on a variety of guns over the years. It sounds like you have the 1100-based Sportsman 12, which was only offered between 1985-86. It is basically an entry level, "Express" grade 1100. A similar Sportsman 12 pump (1984-86) became the 870 Express in 1987.buymore said:I picked up an older 12 g autoloader 2 3/4". It has a B-square saddle mount on it. It has all the same lines as an 1100. Side-by-side it appears to be an 1100. It has the same lines in the wood and all. Underneath part of the saddle mount I can see half of "SPORTSMAN", but I cannot see anything else. I removed the saddle mount and it says "Sportsman 12 Auto" under there. Serial number is P0578XXV. It has a Remington marked smoothbore rifle sight barrel on it. I had the dealer pull a field barrel off another 1100 and it was exactly the same as the rifle sigth barrel on it and it locked up correctly. I test fired (3) field loads in it for function and it cycled just fine. It's too dark to test fire slugs for accuracy tonight. It came with the saddlemount and a Tasco Pro Point red dot, rifle sight smooth bore and a decent cloth padded sling for $375. The gun looks barely shot, and hardly carried too. Is this an 1100? I may want to remove that saddle mount and just use the sights, but I'll have to order trigger group pins to replace when I pull the saddlemount. I need to know what model to order them for. I cannot post pics on this board so far, so I can only describe or answer questions on this one. How can I tell which model I have for sure? Thanks[/b]
I would think that parts should be interchangeable with any older 1100. Current production 1100s may have light contour barrels and forends - or overbored barrels and chokes, depending upon model.
By the way, $375 is a great price, given the condition you've described!
m12 has it right. It is the "Sportsman 12 auto". Look under the 1100 section in the Blue Book. It is just an economy version of the 1100. I have one. Blue Book 90% is $195. I paid $250 for mine. Blue Book prices seem way out of line for "retail". For instance a 1100 field with fixed choke and plain barrel- 90%- is $140. I haven't seen one for anywhere near that.
yeah...Blue book pricing. Only seems to follow that when a dealer wants your for the low price and they want the high price for theirs! In N.E Ohio, we get fairly low pricing and it was the best I could find by a long shot! When I sell firearms on Gunbroker, they inevitably sell to someone out west 90% of the time. I'm very happy with the price and what I got. I just wanted to make sure it was in fact an 1100 as I thought. Thanks for the help everyone. Now time to go use it!!!!
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