i own a red label 20 ***** and i could not be more happy with it. i did an extensive search about the quality of this firearm before i purchased it and i found nothing that would lead me to believe that there are that many problems with the gun. the only complaint that i heard from each of the five gun dealers that i went to was the weight of the gun. my 20 ***** weighs 7.25 pounds-that is not real heavy. the weight would actually reduce recoil as i understand it but only shooting it in a 20 gauge recoil is not a concern to me anyway. i would say functionally wise there as good as any gun i have ever shot