Very True! Setback( the faster the burnrate of the powder, the worse it is), soft shot, and heavy charges are the real problem. Testing proved at the factory that the 2 3/4 dram-1 1/8 12 gauge load skeet load deformed less shot than the 3 dram-1 1/8 load...all things being equal. Shot was recoverd in styrofoam blocks. Even if the bagged shot that says "Hard Shot" it is still too soft.....The shot used in WW trap loads have up to 7% antimony! More than factory Skeet shells. Lots of times people think copperplate and nickel plate shot are harder....but, if soft shot was used under the plate, there is still shot deformation. Antimony is cheaper in Europe and many times the shot in their shells are much harder than loads put together in the States. Lawrence "Magnum" shot (in all sizes) and Ballistic Products plated shot (copper and nickel) have proven time and time again to be best. Best Regards, James