[UltraMag]

I've harvested a lot of ducks with #4 steel at 1550fps, it's not bad at all within 40yds max.
The only reason i switched that 1oz load to #3's was i got tired of biting into shot,or scannin the breasts with a metal detector.
I use #1 steel mainly now, but i still maintain #4 steel works quite well, i even hammered a mallard at least 40yds up with 1oz of #5 steel 2 weeks ago,i was walkin up some quail at the time to take the tedium off a slow duck day, and a flock of mallards happened overhead, it didn't flinch, came down DOA.

 

[UltraMag]

I find it amusing when i hear people claim they very rarely get wounded birds with TM or hevi.
It all depends on where the pellets hit the bird, pure and simple, it's all a matter of odds,and patterning homework helps tremendously as well.It don't matter if it's steel or some other non tox, hit i duck with a few pellets in non-vital areas, it don't matter what type of shot it is, you'll have a duck that's not stone cold dead. period...

 

[UltraMag]

I just got these this morning
three of the ducks with 3" fed hull 1 3/16 oz #3 steel at 1560fps
and 4 of em with 3.5" cheddite hull 1 3/8oz #1 steel at 1525fps,
all dead, no wounded ones,
ranges from 20yds,to 40+yds
11-87SP 3.5" mag w/ factory internal mod choke.

The quail we got after limiting on ducks, took a little walk with 1oz #5 steel
at 1540fps,CSD100 wad.

Yep, that steel just don't seem to work worth a darn :roll: :roll:

 

[UltraMag]

Oh surely you didn't shoot those quail over a retriever? :shock:

Shun the thought..
Over my brother's American Water Spaniel,
She retreived all the mallards,and is one of the best upland dogs
i've seen in a long time 8)

Here's some Pic's of her.