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I 1st came on this site about 3 years ago because I was searching around for info on a sore shooting shoulder & I was directed to here- well it's back again & I think it's tendonitis in my shoulder- does anyone have any experience of this?
It is seriously starting to interfere with my shooting & I've had to pull off a couple of times now- last weekend we had the 1st of our 2 England Team Selection shoot weekends & I did pretty good- it was 25 on then an hours wait til the next 25 & so on all weeknd til we shot 200. It's when I shoot more than a couple of rounds it's hurting & I then can't pull the trigger so give up.
I keep doing nothing in the hope that it will go away but it's got worse so next week I'm having a sports massage, seeing my husbands orthopedic surgeon (he had surgery on his shoulder in Nov & recovered really quickly was back shooting in 4 weeks), & seeing a physio the week after. They'll probably all tell me something different (he who is good with a hammer .... :D ).

I'm going to have a week off then next Wed. try shooting 20 gauge but I already shoot very very low recoil 12 gauge which aren't much different than 20 (& our shells are way less punchy than yours-I have to shoot 28 gauge in the States!). The other option I have is we have a PFS sat in the gun cabinet unused but I am a bit loathe to make such big changes right before all the big shoots (it's the English Open next Sunday!)

Advice from any Docs or anyone's that had this (& I'm not even sure yet it IS tendonitis that's my self diagnosis with Mr Google's help :lol: ) or anyone that doesn't know anything about but once had a cousin's whose auntie's dog had it :wink:
 

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Go to someone good. Find out what it is first. More likely a rotator cuff tear or stretch.
I have now torn mine, (left luckily) 4 times. Next time it will be surgery.
A good PT (my wife is one) will likely be able to tell you what it is.
Stick to an exercise program if it is.
You really need to see a Dr. though, because you never know what it really is. The wrong diagnosis and following treatment can do more harm.
When I was first dating my wife, she had a friend who was a softball fanatic. Played all the time. Much shoulder trouble, which he ignored until he got sick. Turned out to be cancer. My fourth date with my wife was to his funeral. He was 26.
 

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I'm with Jim on this one.

I'd come more near thinking its a messed up rotator cuff than tendonitis. Rotator problems can be fixed with authurscopic (sp) surgery.

If it is rotator problems, the longer you wait, the more damage is being done................Think about that.
 

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I have a Gracoil recoil reducer on my O/U, I don't even think of or notice any recoil.
Until it heals or your medical professional take care of it......

My wife uses one of these. Helps her to reduce and spread the recoil. You can find them at most stores, I bought one at Gamaliel Shooting supply.

Details The PAST Hidden Comfort Recoil Shield for Women
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$14.95
If that does not work try oxycodone. :mrgreen:
 

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Recoil reducers despite their name do not Reduce Recoil they dissipate it so it feels like less.
If indeed there is something wrong with the shoulder then she is going to keep hurting and doing damage.
Also one drop of water on someone's forehead will not hurt them but a thousand… :shock:
 

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Buckshot Bob said:
Recoil reducers despite their name do not Reduce Recoil they dissipate it so it feels like less.
If indeed there is something wrong with the shoulder then she is going to keep hurting and doing damage.
Also one drop of water on someone's forehead will not hurt them but a thousand… :shock:
Right Bob, but if you can find a way to both heal and shoot it will reduce the psychological damage done by not shooting. :roll: I would suggest her taking the advice of a medical professional over a couple of clowns on the internet.

Also one drop of water on someone's forehead will not hurt them but a thousand…
I fail to see how waterboarding her will help??? :?
 

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Stogie said:
Buckshot Bob said:
Recoil reducers despite their name do not Reduce Recoil they dissipate it so it feels like less.
If indeed there is something wrong with the shoulder then she is going to keep hurting and doing damage.
Also one drop of water on someone's forehead will not hurt them but a thousand… :shock:
Right Bob, but if you can find a way to both heal and shoot it will reduce the psychological damage done by not shooting. :roll: I would suggest her taking the advice of a medical professional over a couple of clowns on the internet.

Also one drop of water on someone's forehead will not hurt them but a thousand…
I fail to see how waterboarding her will help??? :?
Hey who you calling a clown clown? :lol:
 

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Easy guys....when dear Katie brought this up the first time we directed her to all kinds of gel pads, stock recoil reduction systems, etc.

At this point I'm in agreement with the go see an Dr and determine the issue.

I tend not to think of tendinitis (basically a little fraying of a tendon and the pain that results from these frays rubbing agains the surrounding sheath) and shoulders....but I'm not an orthopedic dr which is what she needs for a diagnosis.

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If the Dr. says to lay off, then I would suggest switching shoulders.

Sometimes the pain is there for a reason. I developed golfers elbow (same as tennis elbow I am told) It made me give up golf and take up my shotgun sports. :mrgreen:
 

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I was almost a year without shooting - dang near killed me!!

I have long term nerve damage from industrial work and shooting.
When I asked the doctor what the alternatives were, I was told to lay off the shooting , or lay off work, and a guy has to feed his family.
simply holding a heavy gun tends to aggrevate the nerves inmy shoulder, and working as a scaffolder does not help at all.
Managed to get some jobs off the tools, and stayed away from the firearms .
I ened up shooting sub gauge shotguns only and smaller caliber rifles since then.
Every now and then I get stoopid and shoot a 12 gauge, but usually regret it the next day.

My advice is to get to a sports doctor and a physio therapist and heed his/her advice, as bad as it may sound!
Davide
 

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I got a friend to have a look yesterday - he specializes in Sport & body mechanics- he also thought it was tendonitis. Monday Im having a sports massage & seeing an orthopedic surgeon on Tues. I was hoping to get a steroid injection on Tuesday so that I can still shoot the English Open on Sunday probably with 28 gauge but my friend wasvery sceptical of those cortisone injections whereas for a short term fix I thought it would be good?
I am a very sporty person & the thought of laying off everything for a long time fills me with horror.

You are right Stephen & I did take that advice & got a pad for my shoulder. It was better for quite a while & has been only niggly but now I need to get the underlying problem sorted - I just hope that doesn't mean a change of shoulders. My shooting buddy did that & it's taken 3 years!
 

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G'day Kate, baron ,& all,
I sincerely hope that whatever this is, does not require you to bemoan its permanency.
Around 18 months to 2 yrs back, I was very uncomfortable & stiff in the shoulders & quite painful in the left hip. I had no idea that this particular pain, especially the shoulder joint discomfort, was arthritis. I confided in a nurse at my work & upon her excellent advice, I have undertaken to consume in medicinal quantities"Omega 3 fish Oil" capsules. (1000mg) 3 times daily. This has been the single best thing that I have undertaken for some considerable time.
I am not aware of the exact symptoms of your ailment, however, if you suspect that arthritis may be at all part of your discomfort, I implore you to trial this medication.

Regards...................SoT
 

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Good luck, Kate and let us know. I have had a single cotisone shot for "tennis elbow" tendon and the irritation never returned again, it was very effective in that case....but I'm not advocating cotisone shots in general. I'm not a doctor.

I do think the idea of getting a shot and then immediately entering a sporting event that aggravates the injury may not be a great idea for anyone except pro athletes who are paid megabucks to sacrafice their bodies for the outcome of a game.

Like my friend Murrell often tells me; "its only skeet, its not world peace".
 

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No thats true Stephen- it's just annoying that I'm finally shooting well & enjoying it more than ever. I have trained up a new babysitter for my 4 kids just for these shoots & everything is all planned right up til the end of October. Just an annoyance though - I understand health is more important. Luckily I can always play tennis instead as I'm a southpaw at that not shooting so that's good.

I'm going to see what the shoulder specialist says on Tuesday & if he says I can still shoot then I'll try the PFS I think - we have one sitting in the cupboard so it's a better option than 28 gauge as the cost of the shells here make it impractical.
Thanks for all the advice
 

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PFS stock, put it to work! EVERYBODY I know that has one loves it. It should be simply enough to copy your current stock dimensions over to the PFS so the change should not be that big of a deal.

If you most lay off, keep going to the shoots and to practice! Practice putting a hard focus on every target thrown as you practice your lower body pivot to track these targets...do everything but shoot the gun. Just looking at the birds is good practice...stick your finger up in the air and bang away.
 

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Have been to have a sports massage today OUCH :shock: :shock: - she thinks it's a small tear rather than tendonitis- I thought that would mean curtains for shooting but she says not - the best thing I have done is I've kept it active & not stopped anything. She reckons by using heat & ice pads on it before & after all excercise & shooting it will be fine . I've ordered some online that you click to activate as they don't have ice at any of our grounds( it's a luxury to get a cuppa :lol: )
Am seeing my husbands orthopedic surgeon tomorrow( free as it's on insurance :wink: so thought I might as well). I'm hoping he agrees with her!
 

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Kate - please do report after seeing the ortho doc....massage therapist opinion is nice but...doc is better...and your friends on this side of the pond would like to know how it goes with you.

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Good decision to get it checked. An MRI will tell the story. I left my problem go too long (about 10-12 months). It kept getting worse and got to the point I could barely raise my arm and had great difficulty sleeping at night. Turned out to be a torn rotator cuff and labrum. I'll be honest, the surgery and recovery are not fun. In fact, they are miserable. But if it is a tear and let's go completely one day, that will be real trouble. I'm entering my sixth month of physical therapy but at least now I'm getting back into shotgunning now and can at least raise a shotgun somewhat comfortably. Luckily, the surgery was not on my shooting shoulder otherwise I wouldn't try shooting yet. If you need surgery, your recovering will be a factor of damage, age, and health (I'm a diabetic which complicated my recovery).

Good luck.
 

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Good luck with tendonitis, it takes a very long time to heal. I have it in both elbows, tennis and golfers, and shoulder too. What has helped me was a regular regimen of ibuprofin (if your stomach can handle it) I was seeing a physical therapist, doctor and a chiropractor. I had an MRI of my shoulder to see if I had a tear in my rotator cuff (No tear). It was very painful and kept me up many nights. The doctor identified the tendonitis, the physical therapist gave me some exercises, stretches and iced the area. The chiropractor (who did the best) hit the area with ultrasound, deep tissue massage, "adjusted" the elbows and shoulder. I found that I did everything the therapist said to do religiously and that actually seemed to help to a point but then started to get worse, I stopped the therapy when that happened. Then I started to get better, stayed with the ultrasound, massage, and ibuprofin. I never missed a day shooting because of it :mrgreen:. If you have a hot tub or access to one I recommend that too, it opens up the blood flow the the affected area. Tendons have very little blood going to them and they take a long time to heal because of that.

One other thought........if your preshot routine is too long (standing with the gun mounted for a long time collecting your thoughts) it may serve you better to collect your thoughts first then mount the gun and call for the target. Holding a heavy tubed gun in a "isometric" exercise position could bring it on or make it worse. What you may think was caused by recoil may not be caused by it at all but could be aggrivated by it.

Also identify other things that may bother it too and change them, poor posture at the computer, lifting the kids unnecessarily, repetive tasks, pulling with arms, etc.....

If you need more info you can PM.
 
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